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well as some of you know I have a dragrace coming up and have been planning on haveing ALOT of you there. As some of you also know I went out of town to get the bike worked on. the other shop screwed my bike up REAL bad.... Well as i was about to pitch a fit I talked with kevin KWS Chris Lukes and Derik king At well if you dont know him your a tard. Well these 3 have rounded up and are going to help me get the bike up and running like it was or better by friday. There is about two weeks of work to be done witch will be done if everything goes right in about 2 days. The discovery channel aint got shit on these guys.
First off, that's what you get for taking it to Rockhill, or where ever you took it. Second, hopefully they didn't mess it up too badly.
Anyway, how could they mess it up? I thought you were only putting on a PC3 and getting a custom map?
its along story it is in scrider under charleston under tonight. and yea your right all i was getting was a pc3 and a map.
SUM650
10-06-2005, 09:03 AM
That's why I only take anything bike related to KWS or DK over at ShadeTree. Boy could I tell you some horror stories about Lukes Motorcycle shop.
Randy, I just read your post at scriders. I still don't understand how they did that much damage by hooking up a PC3 wrong and doing a dyno run. I've never seen damage caused by improperly installing a PC3. Yeah, it may run really bad hooked up to the wrong injectors, but it shouldn't do damage. Did you try to put everything back to stock and try it from there?
Something is really wrong with that place if they can't hook up a PC3 properly to beging with. What a bunch of morons.
thonggirl
10-06-2005, 01:27 PM
Should have went to KWS at the begining!
SUM650
10-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Randy, I just read your post at scriders. I still don't understand how they did that much damage by hooking up a PC3 wrong and doing a dyno run. I've never seen damage caused by improperly installing a PC3. Yeah, it may run really bad hooked up to the wrong injectors, but it shouldn't do damage. Did you try to put everything back to stock and try it from there?
I really don't understand how this could happen. Anyway you could have installed the pc 3 at your house and loaded the map for your exhaust in about 15 minutes. No expert is needed for this. Are you sure thats all they were doing?
jason 41
10-06-2005, 03:43 PM
You should just leave it stock and ride it faster! :lmao:
OriginalOne
10-06-2005, 03:58 PM
he said they BEAT on a sensor? that is actually part of the throttle body, and they put a scratch on his tank. I dont know about all that, i could see them being incompetent but not beating on someones bike. I dont know.
SUM650
10-06-2005, 04:09 PM
he said they BEAT on a sensor? that is actually part of the throttle body, and they put a scratch on his tank. I dont know about all that, i could see them being incompetent but not beating on someones bike
That's exactly what I don't get? Why would anyone touch the gas tank to install a pc3. Aren't most sportbike efi systems under the seats? Another thing, why would you mess with any sensors? All you usually need to do is plug in the pc to that bikes efi management system. Then you simply hook your couputer to the pc and down load a map or make changes to a map. It's that simple. No need to touch any sensors or any of that non sense. How could such a simple job go way into left field? A piece to the puzzle seems to be missing!
FWIW, my 929, 954, and FJR all had to have the tank lifted off to get to the FI wiring.
...but from what I've read, I wouldn't let whoever worked on that bike change by blinker fluid.
mandingo
10-06-2005, 04:33 PM
FWIW, my 929, 954, and FJR all had to have the tank lifted off to get to the FI wiring.
...but from what I've read, I wouldn't let whoever worked on that bike change by blinker fluid. :lmao:
OriginalOne
10-06-2005, 04:34 PM
ya got me, i mean i dont know why they'd even have the airbox off either to get to the throttlebodies in the first place, you can still get to whatever FI wireing without taking the airbox off..
mandingo
10-06-2005, 04:36 PM
i believe the kaw has two sets of injectors like the honda. wonder if they...................naw, no one could be that stupid.
OriginalOne
10-06-2005, 04:39 PM
speaking of throttle bodies and ripping shit apart, mine's in pieces, bout to take the valve covers off need some feeler guages and carb stick or vacuum guage soon, shane's out of town i might end up having to bring the bike in... lol hope not
My RC51 was easy. All I did was plug the Power Commander into the main wiring harness. On my CBR I had to plug the PC3 into the lower 4 injectors which took a bit longer. Placing the PC3 on the upper injectors wouldn't damage anything it would just run like shit. Nothing difficult but took about 45 mins to do the whole job including hooking up the laptop and installing the map. I did have to lift the tank to get to them.
mandingo
10-06-2005, 04:51 PM
just read the post on sc, what a crock of shit!!!!!!! you dont plug into any sensors, there is a clamp that goes on a certain wire (no cutting involved) and a plug into the pc3. either you are making excuses or you are being seriously taken advantage of by beaufort and lukes as a combined effort. no way that much damage happen from a dyno run.
dude you are fucking hilarious! thanks, i needed that.
mccutch2u
10-06-2005, 05:49 PM
so how much money did you save by going to rock hill..............................
OriginalOne
10-06-2005, 05:53 PM
well he ended up getting a free pc3 from them for scratching his tank, and they are paying the bill over at lukes. so all he really has to do is download the map from the internet for his exhaust and call it a day but i'm sure he'll pay for it somewhere
Well its done but sooo many questions... umm ok the scrath happened when they were hooking up the dyno. had to get under tank.
ummm 2nd it was beufort Power commander recomended too...!
Sum= The bike is fixed and the mapping will probably happen at KWS tomorrow.
Nash yes we put everything back to stock and the FI light was still on.
Sum again= the plugs are under the tank
Kenny you would be amazed yes there that stupid I have witnesses. they rode with me.
Brandon the sencor was the sub throtle sensor. This is attatched to the throtlebodies and cannot be bought seperatly.
Kenny again the clamp is for the tack.
Ok here's what we got They paid the bill at lukes. bikes fixed. Chris did it. Umm the sub position sensor has a harness on it that is hard to get to. They 1 had the wrong harness.2 instead of removeing 2 difficult screws they beat on it. {I have no idea } well this damaged it. It is repaired and they paid for it. NOW they want me there tomorow to Map it. IM ON MY WAY! WTF ever. KWS will be getting it. DK and chris are done now Keven gets her and This will all be over. Hey kenny If im so full of shit why dont you call Southern Scooters Beufort Sc Numbers in my truck if you need it. The guys name is stich. Kinda got some mixed feelings here I mean they paid for everything they damaged but I wouldnt and am not Takeing it there Even if its free.
so how much money did you save by going to rock hill..............................
This is a point i want to address. When Im right I stand by what I say but this time i was wrong REAL wrong. KWS!
OriginalOne
10-06-2005, 06:39 PM
why dont you just download your map from the exhaust website or pc3 website or where ever, they are all over the internet? Download it and install it. there's a billion bikes out there with the same pipe and tre setup as yours. Get it for free, take their word on the horsepower info and wait to spend the extra money on the dyno when you do something real to your bike. That''s what I would do. It's not like your bike is special and you need it specifically tuned to your engine... it's stock. Just makes sense.
why dont you just download your map from the exhaust website or pc3 website or where ever, they are all over the internet? Download it and install it. there's a billion bikes out there with the same pipe and tre setup as yours. Get it for free, take their word on the horsepower info and wait to spend the extra money on the dyno when you do something real to your bike. That''s what I would do. It's not like your bike is special and you need it specifically tuned to your engine... it's stock. Just makes sense.
Honestly, a custom map is the way to go even if Kevin is big $$. I got my map off the net and it's still running a bit rich. I've tried about five maps so far and it can be a real pain in the ass.
SUM650
10-06-2005, 07:28 PM
why dont you just download your map from the exhaust website or pc3 website or where ever, they are all over the internet? Download it and install it. there's a billion bikes out there with the same pipe and tre setup as yours. Get it for free, take their word on the horsepower info and wait to spend the extra money on the dyno when you do something real to your bike. That''s what I would do. It's not like your bike is special and you need it specifically tuned to your engine... it's stock. Just makes sense.
Brandon your so right, but it's possible to gain that extra 1/8 hp on the top end with a dyno run. I think that the zx 10 will need every ounce of hp to out run the little gixxer 750. Unfoutunately the 10 will need way more than a pc3 to even come close to out running Now what if Jason decides to get a pipe and pc3? Oh my god!
why dont you just download your map from the exhaust website or pc3 website or where ever, they are all over the internet? Download it and install it. there's a billion bikes out there with the same pipe and tre setup as yours. Get it for free, take their word on the horsepower info and wait to spend the extra money on the dyno when you do something real to your bike. That''s what I would do. It's not like your bike is special and you need it specifically tuned to your engine... it's stock. Just makes sense.
Brandon your so right, but it's possible to gain that extra 1/8 hp on the top end with a dyno run. I think that the zx 10 will need every ounce of hp to out run the little gixxer 750. Unfoutunately the 10 will need way more than a pc3 to even come close to out running Jason's gixxer 1000.
Doh!
mccutch2u
10-06-2005, 09:47 PM
it will be a miracle if he will get 5hp out of that pc3 over the zero map settings i have seen bikes that at zero they were as high as you would get hp wise 90% of the time you will only see the powercurve smooth out over hp gains
mccutch2u
10-06-2005, 09:48 PM
so with that said i hope that randy you get more than the pc3 maybe a piston kit or something
I have to get a custom one done because There isnt one on the pc3 site or zx10r.net for the serpent micron. the only one is for europe. And if you pull a map off the internet You might get one submitted from a guy in the Rockeys. The air pressure is different.
SUM650
10-07-2005, 08:20 AM
Hey Randy you know that were just messing with you, right. Anyway's Nash is right. Getting your bike mapped on the dyno is the best thing you can do. It is a little expensive for the small gains that you get. Some bikes need it and others dont. Like Allen's 750, he installed the pipe and pc3 with the zero map and the darn thing is like perfect. I was like Nash always playing with the maps to get it better. One thing about getting Kevin to do it is that you know it's right, end of story. Good Luck with your dyno run.
thanks I will be there today. haveing all kinds of fun.
BTW i havent taken any offence to any of this. really just people asking questions. It is hard to believe they were that dumb. how do you think i felt when they had my bike? I was trying to remember all the dip shit comments made that day....
1 Thats an inline 4 right?
2 one more class and were certified to use this.
3 is this thing like a rc51? we've done one of those.
There was more but i think my memory has blooked them to deter a shooting spree lol oh yea and all of those... they were serious as a heart attack.
mccutch2u
10-07-2005, 05:23 PM
did you go to kevins if so what was the outcome
mandingo
10-07-2005, 05:41 PM
yeah what was it, i bet it was less than my old heavy honda.
jason 41
10-07-2005, 05:45 PM
Yeah,tell us......................................IT DOESN'T MATTER your still SLOW!!!!!!!!RUDYPOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE KANG IS COOKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
jason 41
10-07-2005, 06:03 PM
i'm just bustin your balls, i know i got lucky that day. hope i can beat you next time.
162. I also have to say fuck the mapping and the pc that was the best $300 spent. The education kevin offers for doing it is awsome I now know my bike backwards and forwards. I dont know or cant figure out the pics so i cant post the charts. buttt here killer killer killer
mandingo
10-07-2005, 06:12 PM
gonna need more than that.
who said i was done? What are you puttin out? Dyno numbers not what my homboy told me.
mccutch2u
10-07-2005, 06:21 PM
so what are you gonna do when that suzuki leads the way for you ....................trade it in
na I had a chevy. I decided to keep my bike.
who said i was done? What are you puttin out? Dyno numbers not what my homboy told me.
You'd be very surprised what the CBRs are putting out.
mandingo
10-08-2005, 09:44 AM
oh here we go. 163 at the wheel with dot's, 158 with slicks. but that's not my point. my point is you are gonna need more than hp to go faster than me. why are we having this conversation? you are not faster than me in anything. i am usually pretty modest and keep my mouth shut about this "faster than you shit". i usually just let my actions speak for themselves. so i tell you what, let's settle this. i have extra equipment so there are no excuses. i'll go to the drag race and i'll bring the race bike. bike is bone stock and just has a power commander and pipe (ask your "homeboy") we will drag race, woopity fucking do. then i am going to pay for track day personally and tow your bike in the trailer for you, pay for your gas money, even give you a set of GOOD take off's, then i will proceed to make you cry in your helmet at the track............BOO HOO, HOW MANY TIMES IS HE GONNA LAP ME? BOO HOO..................... then you will finally be able to understand just how much better than you i am. and just think there are many out there faster than me, man you're really gonna feel bad. then when this is all over, you will have to come to the tree on your bike wearing a dress of my choice. OH, and you have to wear a thong underneath and moon passing cars on rivers. ssssshhhheeeeessssshhhhh, i feel better now.
So how bout it?
mandingo
10-08-2005, 10:04 AM
man, am in your head so bad that you can't sleep?! What the hell are you doing posting at 4:30 in the morning?
lol no dragrace so we partied all niight... damn my head hurts. hey kenny WHOOOO SAAAA LMAO
Hey on a serious note we need to talk. I got someone wanting to do a real bike night here is charleston. There looking to put some $$$ into it also radio and all that shit. how would you feel about breaking out the little bike track again? maybe in a month or so.
Btw Donky I know your fast. I just like givin ya shit about it dont take no REAL offence to it. there are 3 people in this town who can round up a shit load of bikes. me yourself and Lunatic. Thats about the three different crowds. well I have a company that wants to throw a bike night. and my idea is to alter it every week so it wont get boring. 1week pocket races. 2week East coast stunters 3rd week bike show. 4th week bikini contest or something along those lines. I think it could be a big hit. but me and you need to get together on it. I believe this could be the biggest bike night thing in charleston. However me and you will have to put down our sworts to do it. Let me know what you think.
OriginalOne
10-08-2005, 12:58 PM
yea except once a week gets old
yea thats why we want to break it up. not to mention we dont have alot of rideing time left. I figures 1 to 3 weeks of planning and then a month of bike nights. then we'll spring it again in the spring before the rally
OriginalOne
10-08-2005, 02:14 PM
once a month would be a lot better if you're trying to do something that big. keeps it as a treat. sure have a bike night once a week but a big event like that once a month.
jason 41
10-08-2005, 02:31 PM
Hey what happend to the answer to Kenny's Challange? Its cool that yall want to be lovey-dovey and have bike night, Butt I and the rest of us want to see a race:club:
CBRjunkie
10-08-2005, 03:24 PM
I'm sure as Kenny will tell you, once a week gets old. QUICK.
Becomes a job when you do it too often. But maybe with enough help you could do it. But even if you do have the man power just like Brandon said particapants can get burned out too.
yea I agree just trying to get one more big blow out before the end of the year. Mini Me Im sure me and kenny will wind up on more than one track.
SUM650
10-11-2005, 08:52 AM
and just think there are many out there faster than me
Yea right, like who Trey and Matt sometimes. Oh and maybe half of the famous AMA riders. Tell us again how you had Jordan's boy Montel Steward in your back pocket!
mandingo
10-11-2005, 11:35 AM
and just think there are many out there faster than me
Yea right, like who Trey and Matt sometimes. Oh and maybe half of the famous AMA riders. Tell us again how you had Jordan's boy Montel Steward in your back pocket! :shhh:
CT954RIDER
10-11-2005, 07:12 PM
I will WEar the thong and dress if you pay for my trackday :lol:
oh here we go. 163 at the wheel with dot's, 158 with slicks.
You gonna show me that at dyno day?
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