When keepin it real goes wrong 2 {my bike is fubar}

for those of you who where not there....went to the tree today. went out to tooga doo and was rolling fast when i heard a wierd sound. i rolled off to get a listen. nothing. so i keep rideing and about 10 min later i hear it again. then i roll out of it and hear nothing.... so about 20 min later im rolling about 130 140 mph and all hell breaks loose. sounds like someone dumpes some marbles in either my tranny or head. cant really hear where it is comeing from. did hear a pop and at witch point i blew the nose cone loose.... mac was there and he said it sounds like my head isnt getting oil... so she is in the garage now and tomorrow i will take her to kws motorsports. but uhh yea my ten is fubar right now. i should hear something tomorow.... im sure kevin will take good care off me.

[SUM650]

I hope it's something small.

yea... is kws closed?

[OriginalOne]

lol should have bought a yamaha... nah sorry to hear that man, sucks for you.

[burns]

TUESDAY 3, 2006

We are open today Randy if you wish to bring her in. Sorry to hear that happened.

on my way

[Nash]

aahhh.....no comment.

[SUM650]

So what's the deal with your bike?

on my way to lukes. have new motor in the back of mt truck. be there all day today.

[mccutch2u]

i don't see any of those suzukis that whipped up on you before running race gas in the shop :lol: :chin: :chin: :chin:

[mccutch2u]

do we burns????????????????????????

ok here's the scoop.

In 2004 when the zx-10r was intro'ed it went to the dunlop track. it toasted a altinator there. {no the zx10 does not have a stator} well now to current. I was on togado and my altinator, witch is mounted in the cases spued metal in my oil pan. then the oil pick up sprayed this metal oil sludge into my motor. The bike went to lukes on rivers. the looked into it. and found that the motor is fine. just needs to be washed out. then we found out the part {altinator} was $1100.00. Well thats $2100.00. I found this motor with paperwork for $1285.00 the only catch i had to go get it to make sure it worked. so me and phill hit the road. Well me and www.zx-10r.net start doing some research... All of the 04 zx-10r's built in the first 6 months had this problem. Then we noticed that the micro fich shows where the part changes inbetween some months of 04. So the bad news kawi should of had a recall. however has not. good news is the kings flagship should be back on tuesday of next week.

[mccutch2u]

why wouldn't that be cvered under warranty

04 out of warantee. but! should be covered under recall. kawi hasnt issued one though...

[SUM650]

I know that sucks, but what can you do. How far did you have to drive to get the motor? All of the mgf's do this when they have a problem. They seem to only issue recalls if there is a extream safety hazzard.

1064 miles. round trip. {and a short stop in siesta key}
well my plan of action is to round up as many people as i can. these will be people that have had the same problem. i will then notify kawasaki of my results as they are happening. I have allready notified them twice. So this will either become REAL public knowledge or they can pay me for my trouble. OR issue a recall. I know you guys wll not like what i am about to say but here it is.
I went to this letter writers board right. because i was thinking about jumping ship. selling the ten and buying something else. well meanwhile i was notifying kawi. i looked up some other companies. I found 2 pages of stuff to kawi. but then i found 8 pages of stuff to sazuki... ya i know let the bashing begin. Well as i keep digging deeper and deeper. i have came to this conclusion. ALL of the new sportbikes are going down a path that will end up screwing people like me and you. EVERY company honda sazuk, kawi, EVEN duck's wer makeing bikes liter, FASTER, More HP!!! but no one not even honda were looking into reliability. All the bikes comeing out of the crate at almost blowing themselves up. doesnt concern the major manufactures. If it can last 1 year end of story. I remember owning zx6's zx7r's and now my ten and never having anything like this happening. Now not being super familiar with the sazuk time lines. the gsxr1000 with the superman shaped headlight... yea I never heard any crazy claims out of this bike. but the new gsxr... frame breaks and other problems. So whats the solution? the solution is US! we need to understand that we are not going to buy bikes that are not going to last. I am really concerend about zx6r's that can do 17500 rpm or R-6's that can do 18k. Here's a question how many can it do in 3 years? I believe that the problems that liter bikes are currently haveing the 600 class will have in about a year or 2... I dont care who is with me on team green or sazuk. we all need to think long and hard about these problems.

sorry about the rant

[OriginalOne]

blah blah blah... get a yamaha

[Nash]

I've had zero problems with my Honda. And if I do, Honda has always fixed the problems. All I can say is buy the extended warranty.

[SUM650]

I've had zero problems with my Honda. And if I do, Honda has always fixed the problems. All I can say is buy the extended warranty.

You haven't nash, but a lot of cbr 1000 owners are have there alternators or stators to burn up. Which ever one it is. Honda is not paying for this one unless the bike is under warranty. Paul had his to go out and he had the extended warranty. However he had to fight with honda to cover it. The dealer had his bike for about a month total. My brother had his to go out on his cbr 1000 and his wasn't covered under warranty. My brother had a 03 R1 before he stupidly sold it to buy the cbr 1000. He now regrets ever doing that. He wanted the 1000 because not many people have them and he thought it would be very reliable. He had 0 problems with the R1 and to date he has had 3 issues with the cbr. If anyone knows about the RC 51 I could make a pretty good list of how many problems that thing had the first year. Most were covered under warranty because they were happing within the first few months of owning the bike. I have heard about this frame braking on the 05 gixxer 1000's, but I know at least a half of dozen or more people who have not had one single problem with theres. In fact I'm on gixxer.com and there has only been one or two guy's on the forum who has seen this problem. So I would be willing to say that these are some very isolated cases. I remember back in 2000 when the zx9 had a simular issue with there frames cracking. Ask Mike F. about that one. You guy's have probably figured this one out buy now already. If you get a first year production on a bike, more that likely it will have a bug or two. They usually always correct it the second year. So I am willing to bet that most 05 zx10 owners will probably never have the problem that Randy had.

[Nash]

Yes, my RC51 had cosmetic problems, which was repaired under the warranty, but nothing ever major. I've never heard of anything go consistently wrong with the Honda V-Twin engine. It was a very reliable engine.

I'll repeat, once again, nothing has gone wrong with "MY" current Honda.

correct barry in 04 and a 1/2 they corrected it.

[SUM650]

my RC51 had cosmetic problems,

You didn't have the leaking gas tank problem on yours, bad brake rotors, or the faulty fuel pump? A lot other early RC folks sure did. Don't get me wrong I absolutly loved the RC's, I wished that I had bought one back then. They were very hot back in there day.

[mccutch2u]

i still stand by SUZUKI look at Richies 02 1000 and we all know how he likes to wheelie and race and as far as i know he hasn't had one problem as for the zx10s word is they are shit because they can't handle a motor build as for reliability i think that all bikes these days are pretty much reliable especially for the life expectancy of sportbikes today

[DK]

Well , all of us want more in a sportbike ..... When was the last time any manufacture sold a motocross bike with a warranty ? Just becuase the thing has a charging system and electric start does not make it reliable.... Sounds to me as if Kawasaki should have just put AC lighting on the ZX 10 and let you bump start it every where you go .....

Didn't kawasaki offer a total loss ignition ?

Didn't carillo cast the engine cases? :hail:

I think kawasaki had lucas develop the electrics when they dug the chunnel together.......................................... ..... :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

Any how were the bikes of the late 80's any more reliable than the new ones ?

If you didn't ride the sportbikes of the 80's you have not a clue how good you have it right now ..... Sucks to be you Randy , but as a whole I think the Kaws have been damn reliable as opposed to other makes......
(and I am a BIG Honda fan) .....

Find out total sales of the ZX-10 in the U.S. then create a post on a ZX 10 forum or whatever ......

Out of 6,000 bikes sold , if 300 went bad , that's only like 5% that went bad.... Don't know what you might get there ......

Good luck..............

In my opinion ......
Kaw Best electrics and compisition of components used, until 2000 the engine development staff forget to tell the chassis engineers exactly what they were up to...

Honda best compisition of all engine and frame components
Most expensive replacment parts of any make....

Yamaha implements the best technologies first, just never enough R&D and they have always had the worst electrics of any Japanese make .....

Fair quality, fair parts, post 96 excellent performance, Alloys and other
metal used are only fractionally acceptable. Light and powerfull .... Just don't toss it !!!!!

BMW "Bring Money Weekly" the Anti UJM Motorcycle.... The Japs and the Germans had a common goal during world war 2.... What the hell happened?

MV "you had better have a serious modeling contract and a thick italian accent before i would even consider it" ..... (wish I knew) Not the aficianado on the make ....


Ducati , marelli electronics (marelli used by lambo and many F1 and Moto GP teams) ...... All makes end in I , not us.... I think they just launder money for the Catholic church..... You could make stronger components out of paper mache'...... (marelli electrics are very easy to test for you strung out tech)


Triumph , (Over what?) and you thought the germans drank too much.....
The brits have got it wrong at the moment, be nice to see an anglo bike on top of a podium not competing in it's own series, like suzuki had to years ago..... (I think Yates won AMA 750 supersport championship in 95 though)
Leaning for looks like Ducati, not concerned with outright HP but functional street bike .... Have not seen many electrical problems.... Many crankshaft failures..... All 3 I have worked on , but as a whole, I don't know ......

In all catergories in my experience the Honda is the best complete package to sell a street rider with the Kawasaki a very close second....
Yamaha and Suzuki to this day are still trying... Better numbers never lend themselves to better reliability ......

You buy horsepower and ride torque when you are on the street .... Unless you are out right racing.............................

A few words of wisdom come to mind. told to me by the uppers around here.
DK: get the zx-10.
After i got the ten me and dk were talking
DK "I know it's a all out race bike to go to the store on"
Kevin hunt " bike being produced today are comeing out of the crate on the verge of destruction"
I love my bike and the power it has to create. After some deep thought i plan on keeping it. I purchased a motor for $1285.00 off ebay and as per the advise of keven went to go pick it up so i could see the paperwork to make sure it was legit.
DK we did do the poll for altinator failure. this is what helped us determine the issue. It was earlier than the first 6 months of production but dont know how early so we know it was within the first 6 months though. I will get you a link.
So whats the word....
The bike will be done tuesday. riding sunday Racing as soon as shane wants too....

here it is dk
http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15547

[OriginalOne]

bottom line, you had to replace your motor on a 2004 kawasaki liter bike. anyone else replaced their motor lately?

[burns]

I know others that have replaced the ZX10 motor since it came out. At least 3 or 4.

Like I have said, it is a good street bike, that is it.

Hope your bike will be running soon Randy.

yea she's in the garage all fixxed. just got to put the plastics on.

thanks burns.
Oh and to all the haterade you can kiss my skinny yellow ass!
the king is back.
:grrr: :horse: :samurai:
:jester: :jester: :jester: :jester:

[burns]

Dude if your ass is yellow, you best seek help or get some :soap: and take a :bath: . :lol: