Roebling Road pictures

[Mike]

*** I'll update this top post as needed ***

The gallery is here: http://www.dkf2.com/track

The pics are in a chronological order, so ability groups are clustered, as are corners; I shot each group from four locations.

Pricing (suggestions welcome):
- For personal use only (prints, sharing with family/friends, personal website, myspace, etc.) the full-sized, unretouched pics will be $5 each.
- Package deal 1: up to 20 pics of you for $35, hosted online for at least a week
- Package deal 2: all pics of you for $50, hosted online for at least a week
- Add $5 for the first CD if you want me to burn and mail it to you, and $1 for each additional CD

- For commercial/publishing use (by a sponsor, for official websites/publications/flyers/etc, portfolio, etc), or if you want me to do some serious post-processing using my software arsenal, it might be substantially more, so please contact me with your needs.

To order pics:
- make a list of the pics you want (I just need the number)
- PM/email me the list - mike@dkf2.com
- pay me using cash, money order, check, PayPal (non-credit card payment preferred, but credit cards accepted with the standard +3%)

A real-deal comparison. The gallery image, in its original size, is somewhere in this pic (warning, this sucker's large, and suitable for at least a 24"X36" poster :eek: ): http://www.dkf2.com/track/Pic0236.jpg

A quick comparison, using my least sharp lens (Sigma 12-24mm):

an approximate crop from the gallery

http://dkf2.com/track/burger1.jpg

a direct, unretouched crop from the original

http://dkf2.com/track/burger2.jpg

...and a quick Photoshop of the above crop

http://dkf2.com/track/burger3.jpg

IMHO/E, the original image is good enough for about a 24"X36" print, or a very sharp, put-your-nose-against-it 12"X18".

The pics have a number, followed by the date, followed by the time the pic was taken (so yes, you can actually use these time stamps to figure out how fast people were going on the track): 09.35.42 means that the pic was taken at 9:35AM and 42 seconds.

well im up to 1000th my finger is tiered lol

[Mike]

well im up to 1000th my finger is tiered lol

You are tired of clicking? Sheeeeit! :crap:

hey man let me know if you want me to swing by or what...

[Kat_Mac]

How much are you charging for pictures?

I think it's sexual favors... males only

[Mike]

hey man let me know if you want me to swing by or what...

I think it's sexual favors... males only

Doood! Those two one after another reeeeealllly don't sound right :eek:

[Mike]

How much are you charging for pictures?

Still working on that... probably a $5-$10 per pic for personal use.

[cannonballgsu]

Any package deals?

Any package deals?
+1 kinda like the photo 1 disk thing.

[dumwinnie]

good job on the pics mike. thanks for doing that.

[SUM650]

Hey guy's I hope you all will show your site administrator Mike your support. He put this site together and maintains it by himself for absolutely no money. So please show your surport by buying at least one of those fantastic pics that he took of you. Trust me he has better equipment and takes better photos than those trackside photographers that call themselves pros. In case you didn't know, the trackside folks charge $15 to $20 for a pic and Mike is only asking for a fraction of what they charge. Thanks Mike for taking your time to take pics of everyone on the track. Years form now when all of you snobbish sob's are riding your Harley's and turning up your noses at sportbikers, you will be able to look back at the pics and say look at what I did. I must have been crazy.

[Mike]

good job on the pics mike. thanks for doing that.

Thanks, I hope you like at least a few of the ones I took of you.

I can't say all of the work involved was my pleasure but some of it certainly was.

[Mike]

Any package deals?

Yes!

...err, what have you paid in the past for comparable work, that you found to be fair?

[Mike]

Hey guy's I hope you all will show your site administrator Mike your support. He put this site together and maintains it by himself for absolutely no money. So please show your surport by buying at least one of those fantastic pics that he took of you. Trust me he has better equipment and takes better photos than those trackside photographers that call themselves pros. In case you didn't know, the trackside folks charge $15 to $20 for a pic and Mike is only asking for a fraction of what they charge. Thanks Mike for taking your time to take pics of everyone on the track. Years form now when all of you snobbish sob's are riding your Harley's and turning up your noses at sportbikers, you will be able to look back at the pics and say look at what I did. I must have been crazy.

Thanks a lot Barry :)

...wait... damn it Barry, now I can't say it's a thankless job! :mad:

Mike i paid i think $30 for a disc with all my photos on it from photo one. I asked for 2 pics one of jason and kenny and he did it but said it is mainly a deal of JUST YOU. hope that helps....
BTW Im sueing you for a sprang bicept from carrying that camra for 3 seconds lol

[Teacher]

Mike,

Good photos. If you offer the package deal, I would also be interested. If not, it's going to take me a while to sift through all of these and pick out my favorites. Either way, you have a customer here.

BTW, I'm the blue sv, #624.

[Mike]

Mike,

Good photos. If you offer the package deal, I would also be interested. If not, it's going to take me a while to sift through all of these and pick out my favorites. Either way, you have a customer here.

BTW, I'm the blue sv, #624.

Hiya Teacher :smile

Thanks, I'll get better with more practice.

Yes, I did come up with two package deal ideas. 20 pics for $35, or all of them for $50. Which would you prefer?

FWIW, the pics are in a chronological order, so ability groups are clustered, as are corners.



Could someone tell me how the corners are numbered? I shot each group from four locations, and it'd be nice to be able to say 'corner 5' and not 'by that clump of trees over yonder.'

[SUM650]

BTW, I'm the blue sv, #624


Hey Mike aka Teacher, I am Barry. I was on a red ratty sv with #29 plates on it. I must have missed you some how. I tried to meet all of the special SV folks out there on Sunday. It was quite a few of us there huh.

[cannonballgsu]

I think I paid around 35-40 for a full cd of pics at barber from mirror image. Let me know what you are charging, I'm definately going to get some.

Also, quick question, the pics on the net are somewhat blurry, are they all blurry or if that because you uploaded them at a different quality?

Thanks

[Mike]

I think I paid around 35-40 for a full cd of pics at barber from mirror image. Let me know what you are charging, I'm definately going to get some.

Also, quick question, the pics on the net are somewhat blurry, are they all blurry or if that because you uploaded them at a different quality?

Thanks

Could you tell me what resolution the pics from Barber had?

The pics in the gallery are heavily reduced and compressed (8GB of images squeezed into about 250MB), but since sharpness is somewhat subjective, I'll post comparison samples later today for you to see for yourself. I did toss most of the blurry pics into 'the bad' gallery. To tailor this to you, could you tell me an example pic number?

Thanks :smile

[Teacher]

BTW, I'm the blue sv, #624


Hey Mike aka Teacher, I am Barry. I was on a red ratty sv with #29 plates on it. I must have missed you some how. I tried to meet all of the special SV folks out there on Sunday. It was quite a few of us there huh.

I'm not Mike. I'm David. I was addressing Mike in my post. :smile In what group were you riding? I was in the intermediate group.

[cannonballgsu]

I can't remember what resolution the pics from barber were, I'll let you know when I get home. Thanks for ogranizing a page so fast, especially the index, I sifted through hundreds before it was up. The pics look blury to me probably becuase they are compressed so much and I'm sure you didn't take the time to properly resize all of them being there were so many. There was one pic that I hope was really clear, it was a picture at lunch of me and the guy I went with, along with his bike that had a hamburger sitting on the tail...Thought it would look kind of funny. Thanks again.

Edit: That was pic number 0939

[SUM650]

SUM650 wrote:Quote:BTW, I'm the blue sv, #624



Hey Mike aka Teacher, I am Barry. I was on a red ratty sv with #29 plates on it. I must have missed you some how. I tried to meet all of the special SV folks out there on Sunday. It was quite a few of us there huh.


I'm not Mike. I'm David. I was addressing Mike in my post. In what group were you riding? I was in the intermediate group.

I'm sorry, I guess that I was doing a little speed reading there David. I was in the e group. Hopefully I see you at the next one maybe. BTW are you racing your bike this year? If so what orgainization.

[Mike]

I can't remember what resolution the pics from barber were, I'll let you know when I get home. Thanks for ogranizing a page so fast, especially the index, I sifted through hundreds before it was up. The pics look blury to me probably becuase they are compressed so much and I'm sure you didn't take the time to properly resize all of them being there were so many. There was one pic that I hope was really clear, it was a picture at lunch of me and the guy I went with, along with his bike that had a hamburger sitting on the tail...Thought it would look kind of funny. Thanks again.

Edit: That was pic number 0939

Yeah, with the burger on the tail. Funny thing is, I didn't notice it until I looked at the pic. I was too busy trying to be unobtrusive when I took those pics :smilebig:

The pic was taken with a naturally distortive and soft lens, but about as good as they come for the particular focal range (Sigma 12-24mm for anyone else looking on). Basically, to get as much coverage/angle as that lens gives, something has to give. Have you ever heard of a fisheye lens? Well, they sacrifice a whole lot more sharpness and distortion for a little more coverage.

Anyways, enough of the tech talk, and let me show you three crops from the picture (keep in mind when you look at this that this is the least sharp lens in my arsenal):

an approximate crop from the gallery

http://dkf2.com/track/burger1.jpg

a direct, unretouched crop from the original

http://dkf2.com/track/burger2.jpg

...and a quick Photoshop of the above crop

http://dkf2.com/track/burger3.jpg

IMHO/E, the original image is good enough for about a 24"X36" print, or a very sharp, put-your-nose-against-it 12"X18".

[cannonballgsu]

Makes me hungry again...haha. If thats from your least sharp lense, then I'll be happy with everything you got. Thanks for the help.

[Mike]

Makes me hungry again...haha. If thats from your least sharp lense, then I'll be happy with everything you got. Thanks for the help.

Yeah, no kidding. It's 4:30PM right now, I've been awake since 7, and I haven't had anything but a couple of granola bars so far.

Cool, well, in the digital photography field, looking at 100% crops is called "pixel peeping." This is a reference to and an equivalent to looking at regular photographs through a magnifying glass, something that one would normally not do. What that in turn means is that even images that are a soft on the screen will come out quite sharp on paper. I wish I could demostrate in person, but you'll see for yourself what I mean when you take on of these full-size pics and have them printed out at a lab.

:pals:

[mandingo]

he was spinnin it up.....................

[SUM650]

Has anyone heard from all of the people that crashed? BTW how many crashes were there? Mac how is your wrist?

[dumwinnie]

wouldn't consider mine a "crash" but other than needing a frameslider, maybe a bolt or two, the bike's fine. me, just a little sore, no worse than how i'd feel after a pick-up game of ball.

[Mike]

Well, I've made one sale so far. Thanks cannonball!

http://dkf2.com/pics/hostedpics/Ride.jpg

[Mike]

FWIW, I resized the watermarks in the gallery, so the pics are a lot easier to look at...

[SUM650]

I want like the 20 cd package Mike. What's the next step for me?

[Mike]

I want like the 20 cd package Mike. What's the next step for me?

Cool man, if you could just give me their numbers, I'll put it together for you :wtg:

[Mike]

I've resized the watermarks because of a suggestion, and now it's been suggested that I should organize the pics by rider and/or group... man that's a lot of work :crap:

[CameraTrick]

That will take forever. It took me forever just to scan through and get my own pics, but it wasn't impossible. Takes about an hour.

[jason 41]

didn't yall notice the training wheels on Macs bike :lol:

[Teacher]

I'm sorry, I guess that I was doing a little speed reading there David. I was in the e group. Hopefully I see you at the next one maybe. BTW are you racing your bike this year? If so what orgainization.

I'm racing with WERA this year. I'll be back at Roebling in two weekends. Will I see you there?

mike im down just need to know what i need to do? do i need to stop by?

[Mike]

mike im down just need to know what i need to do? do i need to stop by?

Quoting myself from the above posts:

To order pics:
- make a list of the pics you want (I just need the number)
- PM/email me the list - mike@dkf2.com
- pay me using cash, money order, check, PayPal (non-credit card payment preferred, but credit cards accepted with the standard +3%)

You can stop by if you want a CD, but you could even more easily download and burn the pics yourself.

[iamnsxtc]

THAT"S FUNNYY :hail: :lmao:

[SUM650]

I'm racing with WERA this year. I'll be back at Roebling in two weekends. Will I see you there?

I won't be there to race for sure, but I might come down to watch some of the Charleston Boys do there thing. I'm racing CCS southeast.

[Dmaniiz]

:hm: Here some insight...why don't we give Mike a break on the photo package deal? Why are we asking him to find pictures of particular people? What happens if he misses one accidently? Are we going to give him grief for that?

I hope nobody takes offense to this, but we are all grown and I think everyone could handle copying the URL of the pix we want and pasting it on a word doc. This way here we can e-mail our particular request for pictures straight to Mike. I don't think it's fair to ask him for copies of all of the pix when that could easily put him out of business due to pirating.

I'm all about paying for quality work...and this man took some excellent photos!!! I had my 5 megapixel camera out at the track and my photos were a joke. My next post will include a good side by side comparison.

[Dmaniiz]

Heres the pix comparison...

[Mike]

Heres the pix comparison...

Thanks man. That's the reduced (640X480) version. The full sized one (36 times bigger!) would've just pissed off everyone visiting your myspace :lol:

[Mike]

:hm: Here some insight...why don't we give Mike a break on the photo package deal? Why are we asking him to find pictures of particular people? What happens if he misses one accidently? Are we going to give him grief for that?

I hope nobody takes offense to this, but we are all grown and I think everyone could handle copying the URL of the pix we want and pasting it on a word doc. This way here we can e-mail our particular request for pictures straight to Mike. I don't think it's fair to ask him for copies of all of the pix when that could easily put him out of business due to pirating.

I'm all about paying for quality work...and this man took some excellent photos!!! I had my 5 megapixel camera out at the track and my photos were a joke. My next post will include a good side by side comparison.

I don't even need the URL, just the number would do the trick. I put several hours into just prepping the gallery. Sorting alone has several options (rider/group/corner at the very least), so even if I spent the hours in doing it one way, it would be unsatisfactory to someone else. Some people (i.e. camera_trick) have already found that it takes an hour at the most to go through all the pics... there are worse ways to kill an hour than discovering pics of yourself and your friends :smile

Photography is a serious hobby of mine that I enjoy very much, so I'm not in it for the money. I do hope that eventually the money that I do make will cover my track day expenses, or better yet, the substantial investment that I made in my gear. Maybe I am dreaming.



Photography equipment: $12,000
Education, training, and research: $200 and dozens of hours
Trip to a track day: $150
Praise for my work and making people smile: worth it :smilebig:

[CameraTrick]

As passionate as you are about it (and good for that matter) you will make your money back....Any idea what some photographers charge? It's ridiculous, I'll say that. $500 EASILY for a half day shoot - easy. I know some wedding photographers that make over $250,000 a year (not that you want to shoot weddings, but you get my point).

[Kat_Mac]

I concur with Doug. I've seen what Mike does with these pics. He only downloads them, cleans them, crops them, organizes good from bad, puts them in an user friendly format for viewing, throws a watermark on them, and then is interrupted by riders in the meantime jonesing to view their pics. They have stolen many an hour he could have been doing better things.

The photographer at Jennings would just post thumbnails taped outside his trailer. It was up to the rider to tell him what pics he wanted.

Thank you, Mike, for giving up most of your track time to take all these beautiful pictures for us to choose from. Your skills are getting better and better.