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n9623xpilot
01-20-2009, 06:27 PM
Well after four months in the desert, I return to my wonderful money pit of a bike. To my dismay it still runs like a bag of smashed a$$holes. Go figure. :chin:

For those of you reading this that have not followed the endeavors of my misery (or those of you who forgot), heres some info...

I bought the bike last April and it ran like a champ. It was sold to me as a 2002 R6 with a clean title, yet it has a 99/00 CDI and wiring harness on it. I did a lot of work to the bike (swapped the race fairings for stock ones, full tune-up, turn signals, mirrors, the list goes on, but you get the idea). Well one day I decided to put some Lucas fuel additive in it (this may or may not have been the cause of the problem, but I have it in my head that it is...) and it has ran like shit ever since. It runs like a bat out of hell right off the line with the throttle wide open, but the second I go to maintain a speed it bucks the hell out of me. I do all I can (typically 2nd or third gear with the throttle wide open) just to maintain about 35/40 MPH.

I took the bike to Derek (Shadetree) and he spent most of the summer banging his head agaisnt the damn thing. EVERYTHING was either replaced, swapped, or checked. The entire fuel system was gone through (new fuel filter, new fuel pump, carb swap off of a good running bike) and everything checked good there. The entire ignition system was gone through (spark check, replaced spark plugs, coils swapped off of a good running bike, two different CDI units, one off of a good running bike), the air intake system was checked, and it checked good. All engine sensors were checked and/or swapped from a good running bike (including TPS, cam and crank position sensors), of course all wiring harness' were checked and plugged in and relays and fuses were checked (good). Derek also re-tuned/jetted the carbs. Of course he tested/inspected the entire starting/charging system too, to include all the switches and ignition key. Believe me, he did not leave a stone unturned. (Anything to add, Derek?!?)

Well, in conclusion the bike still runs like shit, and it was determined to be the wiring harnes as the culprit. Well today I just bought an entire main engine harness off of ebay and it includes a CDI. It is the newer version (2001/2002 style CDI/harness) and the one that technically belongs on my bike. I also have the forward "headlight harness" off of a 2002 model, so everything should match up.

Well, long story....long...I want some general opinions out there on anything and everything, but most specifically at this time I am worried about going from an older style harness/CDI (that I knew worked at one point) to the newer one. Is there anything that anyone knows about that this swap may cause problems or not be compatible with? I.E. speedometer/tach assembly, coils, any other electronics on the bike? Any input on this wonderful issue would be greatly appreciated, and obviously worst case scenario I will just slap it on there and see what happens. Hopefully she will run like a champ and I can actually use the damn thing this summer. Thanks in advance, and I will definately keep ya'll posted on how this new harness turns out...especially you Derek! ;)

Professor Fate
01-20-2009, 06:58 PM
As I recall. You and DK changed out just about everything but the air in the tires! Good luck:yeah:

fasterthanyours
01-20-2009, 11:06 PM
Dude it's been so long since i had to remember anything about my R6 that I've forgotten it LOL

However I seem to remember the ECU, R/R, dash, and engine for 99/00/01 to be all the same. People keep telling me that it was the same for 02 also, but I've never tracked that down. I can't remember if the bike changed in 02. Also R1 parts for the same year were interchangeable minus the engine and dash. ECU maybe???

Your harness you bought and ecu should be ok. The dash actually holds it's own memory and just reads the output from the ECU. So as long as the plugs match up, you're good.

n9623xpilot
02-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Dude it's been so long since i had to remember anything about my R6 that I've forgotten it LOL

However I seem to remember the ECU, R/R, dash, and engine for 99/00/01 to be all the same. People keep telling me that it was the same for 02 also, but I've never tracked that down. I can't remember if the bike changed in 02. Also R1 parts for the same year were interchangeable minus the engine and dash. ECU maybe???

Your harness you bought and ecu should be ok. The dash actually holds it's own memory and just reads the output from the ECU. So as long as the plugs match up, you're good.

Thanks Mike. Always willing to put in your "two cents" for me. I sure hope it all works....The waiting (suspense really) is killing me. I dont know what I want more...To hear that it didnt cost that much to fix it....Or just to actually ride the damn thing!

fasterthanyours
02-03-2009, 11:19 PM
Mine's up there with yours right now at ECPS.

Grrr....Nothing against them, I just know what you're going through with the whole situation.

barstoolracer
02-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Yep mikes is there took a few days but after burned connectors it has a bad stator so there it sits hahahaha ....the other r6 is puzzling so far haha

fasterthanyours
02-05-2009, 12:20 AM
I'll be by tomorrow afternoon to work out the Stator needed.

barstoolracer
02-05-2009, 10:05 AM
ok cool ,,,,

n9623xpilot
02-06-2009, 10:32 AM
Yep mikes is there took a few days but after burned connectors it has a bad stator so there it sits hahahaha ....the other r6 is puzzling so far haha


When you say its puzzling...what does that mean? I dropped off an entire wiring harness with a new CDI... Shouldnt that be the first thing to replace/try since DK diagnosed it as that? Or did they do that and it didnt work? Let me know...I may stop up there today...

n9623xpilot
02-06-2009, 05:24 PM
So.........................

I get a call today from East Coast Powersports.......


They fixed the bike.................


Pretty easy fix...................


For the longest time I would swear it was running rich......

But at the same time, it had evidence of running lean..........


It turns out that two of the carbs were running pig rich, and the other two were so lean it should have put holes in the pistons.


All it needed was to be cleaned and the carbs synced....I thought that was the first thing I did before....I guess not....... :chin:


Now, since it was re-jetted in the past, because it was claimed to have been running lean, and now these jets make it run rich, I have to have it re-jetted back to where it was.


It doesnt run perfect at this point because of the jetting, but it runs damn good compared to what it was.

Not the wiring harness.............So................:shrug:


Does anybody need a wiring harness or CDI (two plug) for a 99-02 R6?!?!?!?:D


Well, a new fuel tank should be here middle of next week, and then they will clean it along with all of the fuel system again. God bless them! These are some damn good techs and a great dealership. Highly recommend. Beers on me! :pint:

fasterthanyours
02-06-2009, 05:49 PM
Patrick said something to me about the wiring on the ignition seemed to have been shorting out when he turned the handlebars when he had it on the Dyno.

Patrick?

barstoolracer
02-06-2009, 06:14 PM
yep there was a wire in the switch which when i was getting ready to pull it out would cut the bike off sooooo i had to solder it then it ran ok!!!!!

fasterthanyours
02-06-2009, 09:33 PM
Cool...Glad no new ignition needed.

barstoolracer
02-07-2009, 10:41 AM
nope but the fuel pump died yesterday

mccutch2u
02-07-2009, 05:25 PM
i think i remember someone say fuel issue.....................glad to hear you will be able to ride that thing finally they should be able to jet it for you since that have a dyno

fasterthanyours
02-07-2009, 06:51 PM
Patrick said he's to much of a puss to ride in 40 degree weather, so it got several "free" dyno runs LOL

Fuel pump, damn...

n9623xpilot
02-09-2009, 11:12 PM
Do I even have to praise the work of these people, and specifically the dedication of Patrick?!?!?

Seems like everyone is familiar with the work ethics of these guys! I cant thank them enough. I have been looking online for a jet kit for this thing, and I am at a loss. I am not that intelligent to begin with, but when it comes to carbs...well...I am a moron! Any suggestions from anyone out there? I currently have a full (titanium is what I was told...? Patrick, comments?!) Akrapovic exhaust. I plan on throwing a K&N filter in her at the same time I jet it. Other than those two things NOTHING (that I know of....) is done to the bike.

With that being said, does anyone have something similar that they could recommend a jet size or specific kit? Any recommendations at all are appreciated.

And now for my Ford vs. Chevy question...Is there a specific brand that I should stick with? I have only found a couple and dynojet seems to be the most reputable. I dont want to spend much more than $100 so dont give me a "Lamborghini" type of company to go to! Any advice would be accepted. Thanks.

n9623xpilot
02-09-2009, 11:15 PM
Hmmm....



So this picture....


<---------------That one right there....


I may have to change it once I get the new tank and headlight...


It might be worthy of a real picture, now that its almost not a work in progress....!:smilebig:

Turbo storm
02-10-2009, 08:10 AM
Dynojet is pretty much the "Lamborghini" of jet kits. Their kits come with a range of jets, new needles, and great instructions and recommendations for each of the items you plan on installing.
Quick carb run thru...
You add an aftermarket exhaust, the engine breathes out easier=more air
You add a K&N air filter, the engine breathes in easier=more air.
With these two modifications, the engine will now run lean. You need to add bigger jets (more fuel)to compensate for the added airflow. The needles they give you are adjustable. These control your midrange (where you cruise at normally). There will be a clip that attaches to the needle in one of about 5 slots. The slots adjust the amount of fuel during midrange.
The tuning sheet that dynojet gives you is very complete in guiding you thru adjustments. Even though it might be $20-30 more, it's because of the extra jets they give you. Cheaper companies will only give you one set of jets they think will be best in your application.

Good luck in your endevour. Feel free to ask more questions.

Dan da man

barstoolracer
02-10-2009, 09:43 AM
go with dynojet they are the best dude that bike is running so lean !!!!!@!!

n9623xpilot
02-10-2009, 04:37 PM
Dynojet is pretty much the "Lamborghini" of jet kits. Their kits come with a range of jets, new needles, and great instructions and recommendations for each of the items you plan on installing.
Quick carb run thru...
You add an aftermarket exhaust, the engine breathes out easier=more air
You add a K&N air filter, the engine breathes in easier=more air.
With these two modifications, the engine will now run lean. You need to add bigger jets (more fuel)to compensate for the added airflow. The needles they give you are adjustable. These control your midrange (where you cruise at normally). There will be a clip that attaches to the needle in one of about 5 slots. The slots adjust the amount of fuel during midrange.
The tuning sheet that dynojet gives you is very complete in guiding you thru adjustments. Even though it might be $20-30 more, it's because of the extra jets they give you. Cheaper companies will only give you one set of jets they think will be best in your application.

Good luck in your endevour. Feel free to ask more questions.

Dan da man


Awesome, thanks man. I knew the basics with the extra air and all, but I didnt know how much I would have to compensate with bigger jets. I dont know jack about carbs, and did not realize that the needles were adustable...or that there would be any adjustability with a new jet kit. I figured you just bought one and hoped for the best! Shows my intelligence! Thanks for the inputs...off to the dynojet website I go...Now I just have to figure out if I get the 99-00 R6 kit or the 01-02 kit...Keeping in mind that the sticker on my bike says its an 02 yet it has a 99-00 CDI and wiring harness on it....I wonder if it also has a 99-00 engine, therefore implying that I would have 99-00 carbs, this meaning the 99-00 jet kit...Damn this thing is a pain in the ass! Patrick knows!

fasterthanyours
02-10-2009, 10:01 PM
I'd highly recommend the K&N Air filter, it made my bike open up.
I added the slip-on and it made it better too.

The other thing I would suggest is finding a full exhaust if you intend on going ahead with the jetting. Also buying all the DYNOJET products for Air Fuel management will help. Check into the the new Power Commander Five.

Turbo storm
02-11-2009, 08:44 AM
Isn't the P.C. 5 designed just for Carb bikes?

Mike
02-11-2009, 10:02 AM
Isn't the P.C. 5 designed just for FI bikes?

:yeah:

Turbo storm
02-11-2009, 11:13 AM
Stay out Mr. K! We were just tryin to have a lil fun.:evillaugh:

n9623xpilot
02-11-2009, 11:55 AM
Uhhhhhhh....I have officially been confused...

I thought power commanders were for fuel injected bikes....Do they make something for my bike that plugs in the CDI or something???!? I suppose I could look into it too, but I have never heard of this....

Mike
02-11-2009, 12:05 PM
Stay out Mr. K! We were just tryin to have a lil fun.:evillaugh:

Uhhhhhhh....I have officially been confused...

I thought power commanders were for fuel injected bikes....Do they make something for my bike that plugs in the CDI or something???!? I suppose I could look into it too, but I have never heard of this....

See wut yew dun dyd Dan? :crap:

n9623xpilot
02-11-2009, 12:49 PM
Okay, anways...Dont really care, I just want this damn thing running right.

Anyone know where I could get a dynojet jet kit around here? Or do I have to buy this crap online....?

DK
02-11-2009, 01:31 PM
The bike had a factory pro tuning kit already installed.

What's the issue ?

Turbo storm
02-11-2009, 03:21 PM
Go see Matt in the parts dept of ECPS. You ought to know them pretty well now.

Scootimus
02-11-2009, 05:01 PM
The bike had a factory pro tuning kit already installed.

What's the issue ?

From what Patty was telling me it's running lean as all hell.

n9623xpilot
02-11-2009, 05:36 PM
The bike had a factory pro tuning kit already installed.

What's the issue ?


If thats the case, then can it be adjusted for the air/fuel ratio, or does it need a completely new jet kit?

fasterthanyours
02-12-2009, 09:01 AM
No LOL

It's designed for FI bikes.

Dynojet also has one that's for FI V-Twins.

fasterthanyours
02-12-2009, 09:16 AM
No LOL

It's designed for FI bikes.

Dynojet also has one that's for FI V-Twins.
Hmm didn't see the rest of the replies.

The PCV is designed for FI Bikes.
The PC3 and PC3 USB is for FI Bikes.
I believe the earlier versions were for carbed bikes.

Not sure what this is:
The bike had a factory pro tuning kit already installed.

But I'd stick with it since you won't have to spend any extra $$$
Just figure out how to tune it. I assume it's still at ECPS?

Turbo storm
02-12-2009, 09:19 AM
If thats the case, then can it be adjusted for the air/fuel ratio, or does it need a completely new jet kit?

The air/fuel ratio is adjusted thru your jetting. You do have a mixture adjustment(pilot screw), but that really adjusts your idle an off-idle mixtures in a fine tuning kinda way. Your midrange is the needles, and top end is your main jet. All of your jetting is subject to change dependant upon temperature and humidity changes, variances in fuel, and sometimes for no reason at all.
Welcome to the wonderful world of carbs. I love my fuel injection.

n9623xpilot
02-13-2009, 02:51 AM
The air/fuel ratio is adjusted thru your jetting. You do have a mixture adjustment(pilot screw), but that really adjusts your idle an off-idle mixtures in a fine tuning kinda way. Your midrange is the needles, and top end is your main jet. All of your jetting is subject to change dependant upon temperature and humidity changes, variances in fuel, and sometimes for no reason at all.
Welcome to the wonderful world of carbs. I love my fuel injection.

Thanks, thats the best response I have received yet! I did end up buying a jet kit. Got lucky and found one on ebay that just happened to be located in summerville. I am going to pick up the jet kit today (Friday), and just do the job myself. The fact that I can ride the bike relatively well (not my skills, but the characteristics of the bike...) except when it goes past 6,000 tells me that the jets (as you have explained, top end) are too lean (which is what Patrick has been telling me all along)...this makes a lot of sense now. I bought kit #4161 (Dynojet) hoping that this will ultimately resolve all of my issues. Now, for some of you intelligent ones...yes, 4161 is specifically for 99-00 R6's. Well, as it turns out, I believe that my bike more than likely has a 99-00 engine in it. Hence the 99-00 wiring and CDI, and many other things going on there. I was examining the instructions (online) for the Dynojet kit, and the online difference between the 99-00 and the 01-02 kits was where it showed you removing the factory "velocity stacks" which I just so happen to have. This was not the case on the 01-02 R6's, so I decided to hit up the 99-00 kit. I hope it works, and all my gibberish makes sense to those who have read this far!

I did get a tank today, and literally just finished installing it. That sucked royally. I completely cleaned the new one, and then strained my fuel out of the old one (using a coffee filter...ghetto, I know!) then prayed that I would screw anything up that Patrick did. Seemed to work great. Of course I bought the fuel tank on ebay (like a dumbass) and the dude completely lied to me. It has a nice dent on the right (about the size of a quarter, so not a huge deal) and the top is caved in a bit. Its not too noticable, but I do have another tank on its way. All I am waiting to receive now is the headlight, and my bike may be worthy to ride with some of you!

I am sure this will not be my last post in this thread, but as of now, I thank all of you for your assistance in this long and grueling process!

n9623xpilot
02-15-2009, 02:18 PM
So I installed the jet kit last night...Pretty easy. The bike runs a little worse than it did before. Prior to the jet kit, I had to block off the ram air tubes (except for a few small holes) so it would run ok. This was obviously because it was running too lean, and we needed to compensate for the small amount of fuel with a small amount of air. After installing the jet kit, I removed the duct tape from the air inlet and rode the bike. It ran very similar to how it ran before (full throttle acceleration problems, and it didnt like to go past 6000 rpm's) it also felt like it would miss every once in a while, while at a constant speed.

I have yet to start any diagnosis on it, but I plan on blocking the intake just a little at a time, to see if its still running lean. Obvioulsy if it runs better, then its still a bit lean. If it runs worse, then I would assume that its now a bit rich.

If this simple test shows no change, then I think its time to bring it back to East Coast, and have the pros finish up this beast for me! Sorry Patrick, but I may have to burden you with it again! :D

thehammer69
02-15-2009, 03:12 PM
So I installed the jet kit last night...Pretty easy. The bike runs a little worse than it did before. Prior to the jet kit, I had to block off the ram air tubes (except for a few small holes) so it would run ok. This was obviously because it was running too lean, and we needed to compensate for the small amount of fuel with a small amount of air. After installing the jet kit, I removed the duct tape from the air inlet and rode the bike. It ran very similar to how it ran before (full throttle acceleration problems, and it didnt like to go past 6000 rpm's) it also felt like it would miss every once in a while, while at a constant speed.

I have yet to start any diagnosis on it, but I plan on blocking the intake just a little at a time, to see if its still running lean. Obvioulsy if it runs better, then its still a bit lean. If it runs worse, then I would assume that its now a bit rich.

If this simple test shows no change, then I think its time to bring it back to East Coast, and have the pros finish up this beast for me! Sorry Patrick, but I may have to burden you with it again! :D

Shim your needles up...if that don't fix...then go with a larger main jet.

Professor Fate
02-15-2009, 03:31 PM
When in doubt....Put it back to factory spec, start over and log every change made. Make any change one at a time. Attention to details!:yeah:

n9623xpilot
02-15-2009, 04:31 PM
Shim your needles up...if that don't fix...then go with a larger main jet.

When you say "shim the needles up" do you mean put the e-clip on a different notch on the needle? I have it set on the fifth out of six grooves which leaves more room on the top of the needle than the part that is actually in the carb. That is what dynojet said to do. So Should I move that e-clip, therefore putting more of the needle into the carb?

n9623xpilot
02-15-2009, 04:38 PM
I should note a couple things about this jet kit that I wasnt too sure about. First of all, the needles seem to have a lot of play in the slide. The slide naturally has a little play, and my buddy (car carb guy) said it shouldnt matter. Also, the jet kit came with two jets. One big and one small. I put the bigger of the two in as the jet kit called for that with the aftermarket exhaust. The other thing that seemed really whack was these "air correctors" that came with the kit. Very tiny plugs that went underneath the main jet and pressed into place. These plugs have an extremely small hole in them, and they really seem to restrict a lot of flow. There was nothing in these holes before, and the way they installed was really gay. Anyone know anything about these air correctors and if I need them or not. Not really sure how the hell I would get them out now that I have installed them, but I just follwed the instructions that came with the kit. Anyhow, hopefully this info can be more helpful in some you of ya'll helping me! Thanks for the info and replies, it is much appreciated.

thehammer69
02-15-2009, 06:08 PM
less needle in carb

n9623xpilot
02-15-2009, 10:46 PM
less needle in carb

Okay, I will give that a shot I suppose. I only have one more groove in the needle to work with, so I hope thats enough. It will back it out of the carb about 1/16 of an inch.....

Turbo storm
02-16-2009, 11:10 AM
As you ride it, especially on decelleration, listen for "lean pops". If it has a backfiring poppy sound, you need to raise those needles out of the carb, and maybe go up on your jets. Any backfiring or pops are signs of being lean. If the throttle seems muddy, un-responsive, or boggy, you are probably too rich. Follow the instruction sheet. It should guide you thru these things.

n9623xpilot
02-23-2009, 12:55 PM
The saga continues...

So after all of my efforts, I am left baffled once again.

I went for a short ride yesterday only to find myself getting nowhere fast. The bike accelerates fast and smooth as hell from a dead stop, and it rides damn near perfect at a constant speed at or below 45 mph. Once you get it going faster (highway speeds) it will start to show signs of weakness.

Here is what I gathered...

I was riding down 526 with some buddies and the bike was doing great at 65/70mph. I even got a little crazy once and took her up into triple digits, and it did well (just quickly accelerated to it, then slowed back to the speed limit...didnt hold the speed). Then we came back...Going the opposite direction was a nice 30mph headwind, and the bike said f you. I did everything I could to maintain 45mph on the highway! Thats when I tried something. As I was in 4th gear at 45 mph, I leaned forward and put my hand in front of the intake (just re-directing some air, not blocking the intake entirely) and without hesitation the bike took off like a bat out of hell. The second I moved my hand, it would bog down again.

This left me with two possibilities. Its either running lean or its got a vacuum leak and getting air from somewhere else.

So I stopped in a parking lot and covered about 60% of my intake tubes with duct tape. The bike wouldnt even start. Just from trying a few times to start it, ended up flooding it. I then removed the duct tape and waited about five minutes and it fired up fine all while smoking and puffing out all the raw fuel.

So.....I THINK I can conclude that it has a vacuum leak. So I got home, pulled the tank up and started examining the air box (I enjoy axamining "the box"....just a little humor...anyhow...) I found a hole in the top of the air box that is open. I searched the PDF service manual that I have, and apparently this hole is supposed to have a tube connected to it (not my intent, but this is sounding very sexual...) and that tube then connects to a smaller tube which connects to alittle air box (about the size of your fist). Then from there, theres a tube with four other vacuum lines coming off of it that goes to each carb...

Sounds obvious now, doesnt it?!!? I sure as hell hope that this find will make her all better. I went to the home depot (God bless them...) and found all the necesary parts to solve this problem. I have it all back together now, but I have yet to test drive it....I am scared. I want this to be the problem, and all fixed now, and I can not handle to be dissapointed.

So...I guess I will just have to "strap on a pair" and go ride it and see if thats the fix. I will do that tonight, and get back to ya'll....

If this doesnt work....well....Patrick!!! You have been warned! The blue POS might be coming back your way!

Scootimus
02-23-2009, 01:11 PM
Your bike needs a catheter.

Professor Fate
02-23-2009, 01:13 PM
How was battery voltage after it gave you the big F U?

Professor Fate
02-23-2009, 01:14 PM
Your bike needs a catheter.
It needs a new zip code!

Scootimus
02-23-2009, 01:15 PM
It needs a new zip code!
That too!

mccutch2u
02-23-2009, 01:58 PM
http://www.factorypro.com/tech_tuning_procedures/tuning_carbtune,CV,high_rpm_engines.html

here is some reading material for you.................obviously something is wrong with the fuel delivery

mccutch2u
02-23-2009, 02:04 PM
what you really NEED to do is get a dyno run either with east coast or KWS and get a print out of your A/F so that you can see what it is doing at what rpms and then you know what to change other than that quit plating with it until you have that info


KWS does not work on carb bikes but if Kevin has the time he will dyno it for you and you can ask hime what needs to be done and you can do it yourself

or same thing at eastcoast

but until you know your air fuel ratio you are wasting alot of time by trial and error it can be done that way but i am sure you do not want to spnd another summer trying this and that

Turbo storm
02-23-2009, 02:32 PM
I leaned forward and put my hand in front of the intake (just re-directing some air, not blocking the intake entirely) and without hesitation the bike took off like a bat out of hell. The second I moved my hand, it would bog down again.

This left me with two possibilities. Its either running lean or its got a vacuum leak and getting air from somewhere else.

You are definately going the right direction. Patch all the air leaks first! Then diagnose the running problems. If it ran better when you covered the tube, you are definately on the lean side. Another way of "cheating" the system is to pull the choke on a little, and see if the problem gets better or worse. If it gets better, you are definately too lean. It is alot easier to ride with a little choke on, rather than holding one hand over the tube.

Good luck with everything.

n9623xpilot
02-23-2009, 04:50 PM
How was battery voltage after it gave you the big F U?

It was hard enough riding the thing leaning forward with my hand in front of the intake, I didnt want to try to pull out my voltmeter from my back pocket and check the voltage!

Professor Fate
02-23-2009, 04:54 PM
Roger...

n9623xpilot
02-23-2009, 04:58 PM
I agree with you all...Everything from needs a catheter to a dyno run...

I have a free dyno run coupon that came with my jet kit...I doubt anyone around here will accept it, but either way, I have been wanting to get it on a dyno for a while now (for the obvious a/f ratio and such).

I really complicated what I said earlier, so here it is again simplified...

A vacuum hose/line was missing from the top of the airbox down to the carbs. I connected it. It appears to possibly bleed off excess air from the carbs and feed it back into the airbox. Perhaps at higher speeds where the parameters of the carbs are exceeded by the force of all the air. Hopefully this works....I will be test riding in about an hour, and will post how it went.

Even if it does work, I would like to have it tuned to perfection (i.e. dyno run, etc.) and then just ride the POS for once.

As always, I will keep those who give a crap informed...

fasterthanyours
02-23-2009, 11:16 PM
That tube is required on R6's, no riding without it.

Learned from experience. However, I always put my bike back together correctly when I take it apart, seeing as how I've had it apart 3 or 4 dozen times.

n9623xpilot
02-26-2009, 05:17 PM
IT LIVES!!!

So, after all of that time, the primary problem (outside of the carbs needing to be synced and doing the jet kit) was that damn vacuum hose assembly. I feel like a moron for not figuring it out sooner, but I will be semi-modest and say that the dude who owned it before me had it routed completely different and it plugged into the ram air tube rather than the air box...

Either way, I have finally got that piece running...and it runs good! I would give about 95% good. It definately could be fine tuned...Right at 4,000 up to 5500 rpms it seems to bog down a little when I go to accelerate, but other than that it scoots.

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts, input and advice I really appreciate, and I honeslty dont think I could have fixed it without ya'lls help...and Patrick especially!

Now I just have to get some riding experience so I can go cruise with the rest of ya!

Finally........

This thread is D-E-A-D!! :D

Mike
02-26-2009, 05:21 PM
I think you're ready for your next assignment... how about finding Atlantis, or the Holy Grail? :p

Professor Fate
02-26-2009, 05:27 PM
A spray can of brake cleaner can be you best friend.:lol:
As I tell people it's the simple over looked things that WILL
kick you ass!

n9623xpilot
02-26-2009, 05:29 PM
I think you're ready for your next assignment... how about finding Atlantis, or the Holy Grail? :p

:lol:

I dont care who ya are...thats funny!!!

and pretty much sums it up!

Professor Fate
02-26-2009, 08:09 PM
Glad to hear you got her running!

n9623xpilot
02-26-2009, 08:57 PM
Glad to hear you got her running!


So are all of my friends and half the city of Charleston! I think I will just sell it now....

Just kidding!

Anyhow, I am out riding now up in Summerville at a buddies house. If anyone is out riding and wants to meet up for a bit, let me know in the next half hour.

fasterthanyours
02-27-2009, 06:50 AM
I think you're ready for your next assignment... how about finding Atlantis, or the Holy Grail? :p
Appearently that's been hiding right in front of us for years too LMAO

n9623xpilot
02-27-2009, 08:10 PM
Pictures of the POS...

1. "The Beginning"...The day I bought her...

2. A little paint...

3. More paint and a little work...

4. The process of a lot of change...pretty much EVERYTHING

5. Finally complete and running good!

Well...I guess it wont work...I am not the brightest when it comes to computers, but it kept saying that the upload failed...anyone know why it would fail???

I will try again later...

mccutch2u
02-27-2009, 08:44 PM
email the pics to me and I will post them for you

chrismccutchen@comcast.net

Professor Fate
02-27-2009, 09:27 PM
Pictures of the POS...

1. "The Beginning"...The day I bought her...

2. A little paint...

3. More paint and a little work...

4. The process of a lot of change...pretty much EVERYTHING

5. Finally complete and running good!

Well...I guess it wont work...I am not the brightest when it comes to computers, but it kept saying that the upload failed...anyone know why it would fail???

I will try again later...
Don't feel bad at one time I could post pix....Now I just link them to my album when needed.

n9623xpilot
02-28-2009, 02:10 AM
email the pics to me and I will post them for you

chrismccutchen@comcast.net

Sent the pics to ya. Thanks for the help.

mccutch2u
02-28-2009, 01:41 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/mccutch2u/2002R64.jpg

mccutch2u
02-28-2009, 01:42 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/mccutch2u/2002R65.jpg

mccutch2u
02-28-2009, 01:43 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/mccutch2u/2002R62.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/mccutch2u/2002R61.jpg

n9623xpilot
02-28-2009, 01:49 PM
Theres the piece. Thanks to Chris.


<----------------Finally felt like I should change that picture there too...


I want to ride with some of ya now...Dont you usually meet somewhere called "the tree?" Guess I need more info...

n9623xpilot
02-28-2009, 01:52 PM
I still have those race fairings too...For sale...Comes with a clear double bubble windshield, front turn signals, and a single headlight unit. Let me know if anyone is interested. Hell, I would even throw in the gas tank for the right price...

fasterthanyours
02-28-2009, 02:13 PM
LMFAO "The Tree" Yes I lot of riders meet on Sundays at 1 to ride at the huge Oak tree next to Carrabbas on Rivers Ave.

P.S. Tuesday Night is Bike night at Wings Etc in Goose Creek ;)

n9623xpilot
02-28-2009, 02:15 PM
LMFAO "The Tree" Yes I lot of riders meet on Sundays at 1 to ride at the huge Oak tree next to Carrabbas on Rivers Ave.

P.S. Tuesday Night is Bike night at Wings Etc in Goose Creek ;)

Cool, thanks. Tomorrow is probably not going to happen, but if the weather is ok on Tuesday like they claim, then I will probably head out there. Where is Wings Etc. in the Creek?

barstoolracer
02-28-2009, 02:37 PM
im liking the orange pics!!!

n9623xpilot
02-28-2009, 03:14 PM
Check out my profile pic...(apparently I can upload pictures there just fine, but not on a thread...?)...

That was boredom at its finest....rainy day in Chucktown.... :crying:

fasterthanyours
02-28-2009, 11:12 PM
Wings Etc is off RedBank Road just before the railroad tracks by the Base after North Rhett.
There's a Subway in the same shopping center.

As far as uploading pics, Mike the hoster, has it limited on uploading. You can host pics on www.photobucket.com with a free account and then link them here.