Big news from little towns...

Well as most everyone knows alot of people from south went to jenningsgp. well the group number was never totaled however there were 21 preregistered and more showed up. the kneedrager forums are buzzing about that. the jennings form "holly hell that was alot of people, and i heard one groupe was almost 30 from the north/south carolina area!" I knew we would have fun but didnt know how many people would take notice. I have personaly visited 4 forums this morning and there are 2 threads in everyone. 1."ama at barber" 2 "did ja see the crowd at jenningsgp!" So good job to all that participated and helped out!

[Nash]

I had a great time but 50 people on the track at once was a bit too much.

yea i agree..... spent the morning screaming in my helmet BRAKE!!!!

[SUM650]

The problem for me isn't the 50 people, it was the various skill levels within the diferent groups. A lot of people should have been bumped up and a lot of people should have been bumped down in every group for sure. I still think that the folks at Jennings did a wonderful job in trying to make sure that everyone was safe. Even with the large crowd. This is a little unusual to have this many people to show for a track day. I know the owner and the staff will make changes if the large number of crowds keep coming out.

[999Duc]

I thought it was GREAT compared to the last time I was there.

been there 4 times and twice it has been sold out. had a blast though. if i had to say anything bad there were some people on the track that should have had more seat time on a bike though. I also want to openly apologise to ms.Kat i thought she might have been a problem but she proved she can roll just as hard as the rest of us! Dirt or track!

When i say more seat time i am saying that there were some people there that seamed to mistake jennings for a msf course. I dont know the answer to this because they paid just like i did but 40mph in turn one will be dangerous if you cant at least hold a line. I didnt get to see ms kat on the track much but chris told me she was easy to pass because she held her line the whole way around the track like a pro. I did see alot of people out there that were all over the place. couldnt figure out how to pass them safely. I was told by austin that people needed to have a season or 2 under there belt before trying a track day and now i believe. it's not being a dick but i dont want to hit them and i dont want to be hit.

[Nash]

I think they should start with a race school first.

yea i think that is a good idea. i need to get signed up with ed bargleys school....

[Nash]

It's Ed Bargy.

Ed Bargy Racing School (http://www.edbargyracingschool.com/)

[999Duc]

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yeap... talked with mark. {the guy whom wrecked with mac} he said as soon as the doc gave him the thumbs up he would split gas and travel expenses with me to go. so we'll be going here soon.

[999Duc]

Randy ,
What class were you in that had all those problems? I didn't see anything too bad except for some slower traffic.

group 3... me and johhny should have bumped.... we had 3 bikes on the track moving so slow that if i told you... you would think i was lieing....yea that slow.

[999Duc]

What was group 3?

[Mike]

What was group 3?

Novice, I think.

[Kat_Mac]

I also want to openly apologise to ms.Kat i thought she might have been a problem but she proved she can roll just as hard as the rest of us! Dirt or track!

Apology accepted. Thank you for the compliments....I think. Why did you think I'd be a problem?

I ground the crap out of my feelers (sorry, Brian), my pegs, and then my gear shift lever. I need a taller bike and longer arms. I attempted to hang off the bike like I see you bozos. Apparently something longer than a T-rex arm is required.

[999Duc]

What was group 3?

Novice, I think.

Oh ok , Im not used to groups being numbered like that. :wtg:

In that case , I have to defend the riders in the beginner class.

The beginner class IMO should be a class for true BEGINNERS. It is a class in which new track riders should be able to get exposed to the track in a safe manner and learn what its all about without having to worry about getting stuffed or passed while in a turn which means NO passing except on the front straight if anything.So if that means 40mph in turn one , the beginner class is the place to do it.
No inside or outside passing in turns etc...... no pressure.
Lap times should not even be a concern in the minds of riders in this group.

That wasn't the case this weekend. Apparently there was alot of slicing and dicing going on in the beginner class and thats sad because a few first time track riders probably left Jennings vowing never to return to the track after thier first track experience and that doesn't help our sport. :crap:

No offense man , but if that was your 5th time at Jennings and you felt the way you said in your posts, I think you should have moved up from beginner to Intermediate.
That would have been a win win situation for everyone . :wtg:

[999Duc]

Kat , I didn't see what happened .... and I don't know what happened but I know you had an incident.
Im glad you are ok.If you need any help repairing your bike ,you have alot of people here willing to help and Im one of them.
Hope you heal up quick.

[Kat_Mac]

Wow...thank you so much for that. Yea, there's a great group of guys here that have already helped me so much.

I'm not really sure what happened either other than I should have eaten more, hydrated more, and rested a little longer after lunch. The heat got to me. I was trying to pass a guy on turn one and the next thing I know I'm lying beside my bike. The medics told me I passed out twice when they reached me. Then again when I tried to get out of the ambulance to show my daughter I was ok. Just didn't take care of myself. Lesson learned.

[Nash]

group 3... me and johhny should have bumped.... we had 3 bikes on the track moving so slow that if i told you... you would think i was lieing....yea that slow.

Maybe you should look up the word NOVICE.

[Ray]

group 3... me and johhny should have bumped.... we had 3 bikes on the track moving so slow that if i told you... you would think i was lieing....yea that slow.

Maybe you should look up the word NOVICE.Is that like a beginner?

yea
Group 1 evpert
group 2 intermidiate
group 3 novice

I was the fastest of the slow guys :lol:

[999Duc]

Dont take what I said the wrong way , I just tell it how I see it.
I rode expert and didn't have too many issues with anyone in the expert group, but the one novice session I watched scared me. :eek:

yea well to be honest me and johhny talked about bumping but everytime we went to do it there was someone coming of the track in a ambulance... so the little wrist band started to feel alittle better. I did bump however intermidiate was full so strait to expert.... went out and had fun but knew i wasnt running fast enough.
I havent been to jennings 5 times. i have been to 5 trackdays. 4 at jennings. every other time the group 3 was a shit load faster.... however not this time. I wish there was away to guadge things before you sign up.... that way you know where you should be. my past 3 jennings trips i passed people and i was passed. however it seemed the group slowed down from the last time i was there.... however i wont make that mistake again.

[999Duc]

I just posted while you were still writing that , Im sorry that I misunderstood you riding Jennings 5 times when it was 4.
I just think it would beneft you to ride a class up because riding with faster people will make you a better rider.

[999Duc]

Oh and I understand about guageing the groups .........
Before sunday , I hadn't rode Jennings in over 1 1/2 years and needed to learn the track so I was a little worried about starting off in Expert since I know alot of the usual Jennings experts practically LIVE at the track and turn some incredible times haha.
Oh well , I had a great time and hopefully next time we can all socialize more.

I agree..... have heard bad things about group 2 but hey gotta do it....

[999Duc]

Bad things ??? Like??

i heard that group 2 rides above there head alot.....
Morning sessions for group 2 are parts sessions...
Just things i heard....

[999Duc]

Oh , thats not good. Like I said , I haven't been to Jennings in about 1 1/2 years so I have no idea what goes on there.
I hope that isn't the case.

[SUM650]

The beginner class IMO should be a class for true BEGINNERS. It is a class in which new track riders should be able to get exposed to the track in a safe manner and learn what its all about without having to worry about getting stuffed or passed while in a turn which means NO passing except on the front straight if anything.So if that means 40mph in turn one , the beginner class is the place to do it.
No inside or outside passing in turns etc...... no pressure.
Lap times should not even be a concern in the minds of riders in this group.

That wasn't the case this weekend. Apparently there was alot of slicing and dicing going on in the beginner class and thats sad because a few first time track riders probably left Jennings vowing never to return to the track after thier first track experience and that doesn't help our sport.

No offense man , but if that was your 5th time at Jennings and you felt the way you said in your posts, I think you should have moved up from beginner to Intermediate.
That would have been a win win situation for everyone .
What was group 3?

Novice, I think.

Oh ok , Im not used to groups being numbered like that. :wtg:

In that case , I have to defend the riders in the beginner class.

The beginner class IMO should be a class for true BEGINNERS. It is a class in which new track riders should be able to get exposed to the track in a safe manner and learn what its all about without having to worry about getting stuffed or passed while in a turn which means NO passing except on the front straight if anything.So if that means 40mph in turn one , the beginner class is the place to do it.
No inside or outside passing in turns etc...... no pressure.
Lap times should not even be a concern in the minds of riders in this group.

That wasn't the case this weekend. Apparently there was alot of slicing and dicing going on in the beginner class and thats sad because a few first time track riders probably left Jennings vowing never to return to the track after thier first track experience and that doesn't help our sport. :crap:

No offense man , but if that was your 5th time at Jennings and you felt the way you said in your posts, I think you should have moved up from beginner to Intermediate.
That would have been a win win situation for everyone . :wtg:What was group 3?

Novice, I think.

Oh ok , Im not used to groups being numbered like that. :wtg:

In that case , I have to defend the riders in the beginner class.

The beginner class IMO should be a class for true BEGINNERS. It is a class in which new track riders should be able to get exposed to the track in a safe manner and learn what its all about without having to worry about getting stuffed or passed while in a turn which means NO passing except on the front straight if anything.So if that means 40mph in turn one , the beginner class is the place to do it.
No inside or outside passing in turns etc...... no pressure.
Lap times should not even be a concern in the minds of riders in this group.

That wasn't the case this weekend. Apparently there was alot of slicing and dicing going on in the beginner class and thats sad because a few first time track riders probably left Jennings vowing never to return to the track after thier first track experience and that doesn't help our sport. :crap:

No offense man , but if that was your 5th time at Jennings and you felt the way you said in your posts, I think you should have moved up from beginner to Intermediate.
That would have been a win win situation for everyone . :wtg:
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999Duc you are so right. That is really most of the problem with the novice group. People like Randy. I hate to point the finger Randy but people like you are causing the problem. Hell you ran a 34 on one lap and consistent 36's out there when we clocked you. You should have never gone out there to start with. You really put other people in danger when you try to go fast and they are learning. Novice / beginners usually don't know what a race line is. That's why they are all over the track.
They are learning.

Race schools are great and I have been to a couple of them myself including Bargy's. However not everyone can afford the expensive cost of a race school. That's where Jennings comes in. They give the average street rider an opportunity to ride on a track at a beginners level. On top of that they don't require the average street rider to race prep his bike. Jennings is doing the southeast a great public service. People want the opportunity to push there bikes and to ride fast. They can either do it on a controlled and safe environment such as Jennings. Or the option is they can ride like maniocs on the streets and endanger you, your loved ones and themselves. That's why Jennings has a novice / beginner group. As far as group 2 is concerned I haven't had any problems in this group. In fact I know that if the staff sees that you are going too slow in this group, they will bump you back down. In fact it happened to one of our riders on Sun. Group 1 experts, you shouldn’t really be in this group unless you have a lot of track time or you have some race experience. Plus I think they require that you run consistent 30's.

[Mike]

I know that Randy is faster than me, and I know that I'm ready for the intermediate class as long as I have a bike that can support the necessary corner speed (i.e. probably not the FJR).

[dumwinnie]

i was in the intermediate group 'till lunch then bumped up to expert. i had no problems with either group. being in the expert group allowed me to run harder and not have to worry about traffic and from what i understand, the expert guys like practicing passing (as long as you hold a line). in the intermediate group, i did run into a lot of traffic and that allowed me to try my hand at passing. learned a lot this time out, looking forward to the next.

[999Duc]

It does help to practice passing , I just made sure to only pass if I had alot of room and would not stuff anyone.
If it was a race , it would be different ........ but during a trackday I don't play that.

whoa fellas. this is where im uneducated.... you can throw darts at me without me having the knowledge. barry suggested that i bump but that was it. if i would have known all this i would have. im approachable just let me know. I dont know what times qualifies witch group. jason just told me sub 1.30's is expert....that alll i know. so If you going to say should have done this or that fine but explain so i and others will understand. what times constitute what class..? witch track? ive been to roebling once and sooo where should i be there? this shits confuseing.

[Mike]

whoa fellas. this is where im uneducated.... you can throw darts at me without me having the knowledge. barry suggested that i bump but that was it. if i would have known all this i would have. im approachable just let me know. I dont know what times qualifies witch group. jason just told me sub 1.30's is expert....that alll i know. so If you going to say should have done this or that fine but explain so i and others will understand. what times constitute what class..? witch track? ive been to roebling once and sooo where should i be there? this shits confuseing.

Hey Randy, the way I see it, if you're in a group, and constantly passing people, or getting held up by them, it's time to move up. If the opposite is true, it's time to think about moving down. If you're riding hard, and pretty much staying with traffic, you're probably ideally slotted.

[SUM650]

Don't take offense Randy, your not a bad guy. You just didn't know any better. Hell, I'm happy that your on the track and you enjoy it. Didn't we warn you about getting addicted to this stuff?

[teddyb]

To piggy back on SUM650 and 999Duc, I was in the beginner/novice class this weekend and I had a blast. It was my first time on any track. Yeah I was getting passed inside and out and sometimes at the same time. But I think it's all a mindset. If you go in there with the right attitude and get in the mindset to expect to be passed and to not be the fastest I really think that helps you when you do get passed. There were a few guys who were almost brushing against me when they had plenty of room. But for the most part the people passing were giving you the room you needed. But there were a lot of riders who should have bumped up a class.

[999Duc]

Hey Randy, the way I see it, if you're in a group, and constantly passing people, or getting held up by them, it's time to move up. If the opposite is true, it's time to think about moving down. If you're riding hard, and pretty much staying with traffic, you're probably ideally slotted.

:ditto: And Randy, don't take offense to what was said.
If anyone was offended , it would likely be the beginners being offended by the things you said about them not belonging on a track etc.

[Kat_Mac]

I'm offended there weren't more umbrella boys.

[burns]

Well if you would have had a kick ass umbrella I may have come out and held it for ya. :smilebig:

[jason 41]

Look ur at a trackday you will pass and be passed, I honestly didnt start riding in the expert group until I was racing for awhile. If pepole are in the way bump up if there too slow go around them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wave:

[mandingo]

I'm offended there weren't more umbrella boys.for what it's worth, i was an umbrella boy this past weekend. :crying:

[mandingo]

so who wants to go back this weekend?
Me
Randy
Puerto
who else?????????????

[dumwinnie]

somebody pull one of puerto's plugs, armor all his tires, or steal his boots. he's already faster, i don't know if i'll be in contention with him if he keeps it up at this pace.

[jason 41]

Short guys rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dumwinnie]

gimme a few more trackdays, some suspension work, i'm coming for ya. just need a little time.

yea im down for going back and kenny i got 2 people from zx-10r.net just need to know whom we are paying here.
hey wait does this mean im the official cherry picker?

[dumwinnie]

i think as it stands right now, if you can throw out consistant low 30's you may be able to take the ol boom. his suspension is shot and you know he isn't going to run new tires. i'd like to see it.

Id like to do it.... just get his excuse having ass there...

[Red_R6]

Have fun at the track guys!