STT at CMP 4/24-25

[Mike]

FYI: http://www.sportbiketracktime.biz/TrackDetails.aspx?id=15

[Turbo storm]

That is the same weekend Kenny, Trey, Amy and I will be racing in Nashville. Have fun if you go.

[Tilted Horizon]

I'm down... I think Wayne and I are going. So is our friend Greg on his Honda 1000RR

[carolinamoto]

is the $135 it, or is there a STT fee as well? I have not been there in a long time.

[Tilted Horizon]

I think $135 is the member rate... Track Fees include the following according to STT's site:

Your Track Days Include:
· Maximum on-track time

· Novice, Intermediate, and Advanced rider sessions
· Experienced track coaches and instructors
· On track and classroom instruction
· Morning beverages, snacks, and fresh fruit
· Water and sports-drinks throughout the day
· Photographer at most events
· On-site EMS and professional corner staff
· At track tire sales and service
· On site suspension and bike set up assistance

[Tilted Horizon]

Looks like it's $35 for the year to become a STT member. Not too shabby as long as you go to a few of their events.

[Mike]

I've been to.... umm... three STT events, and they were all great. It's nice to have piles of snacks and gallons of drinks available, too.

[carolinamoto]

I just checked the site out. I might be able to swing this. Let me see if I can get someone from Columbia to go with me. Hear that Z???? lets go!!!. I will help you get your bike rolling. This is right down the road.

[ND4SPD]

I'm out of town that weekend. :crap:

[iamnsxtc]

Dave Guoin, MAC, Steve, Pete, Nash(?) Kenny Lambeth and I are going to the AMA then this trackday. Hopefully we can get it together

[Nash]

Charles, I'd love to go but I'm not sure I can get the Ducati ready by then. I'll be gone the week prior to that weekend.

[Scootimus]

Charles, I'd love to go but I'm not sure I can get the Ducati ready by then. I'll be gone the week prior to that weekend.
If you weren't so busy wiping the Vette down with a baby diaper you could have it done! :lol:

You guys have fun!

[Nash]

If you weren't so busy wiping the Vette down with a baby diaper you could have it done! :lol:

That's actually true! Forgot how much of bitch black cars can be!

[carolinamoto]

I talked to debbie this morning and they have some spots left. I need to go with some people from Columbia just in case something happens. all My buddies are going out of town for that weekend so I don't have a track buddy. who from Columbia is going?

[Tilted Horizon]

I talked to debbie this morning and they have some spots left. I need to go with some people from Columbia just in case something happens. all My buddies are going out of town for that weekend so I don't have a track buddy. who from Columbia is going?
If you have a trailer and I can hitch a ride I have a friend and a cousin that live up in Columbia. I'm looking to do both track days.

Otherwise I'll trailer the bike by myself with a open trailer I have. Wayne has to move to Florida for awhile and logistically it won't make since for us to trailer our bikes up together.

Our friend Greg that is going is only interested in staying for the 24th.

Let me know and I'll put the calls into Columbia to arrange for a place to crash.

[halfjack]

I plan being there with my little SV650, camping Fri. & Sat. nights. Plan on having a grill going Sat. eve to cook some meat. Marine Survey & Charleston graphics on the side of my Tacoma truck. Stop by.

[Tilted Horizon]

I plan being there with my little SV650, camping Fri. & Sat. nights. Plan on having a grill going Sat. eve to cook some meat. Marine Survey & Charleston graphics on the side of my Tacoma truck. Stop by.
Awesome... I just might do that. Especially if I ride up there solo. I guess my buddy Wayne might join me as he'll be coming up separate from FL.

How late can you arrive to camp out? Is it in the in-field or do they have a separate camp area? Some tracks if you arrive after they close you can't get in.

At the earliest I'll probably arrive around 7 or 8pm.

[halfjack]

Its pretty much in the infield from what I saw. You don't drive across the track like at RRR. Last Nov. the STT guys fried turkeys and were living in their motorhomes, pretty pimp set up. I would give the track a call and check with them on how late the gate is open. Real friendly folks up there, not a whole lot going on in Kershaw, a pizza place, typical real small southern town. The motel we stayed in was decent enough.

[crash]

Carolinamoto, did Debbie say how many spots were left and what groups they were in?

Charles, Maybe we better set this up soon so we don't miss out.

[carolinamoto]

Carolinamoto, did Debbie say how many spots were left and what groups they were in?

Charles, Maybe we better set this up soon so we don't miss out.

She said that the novice and middle groups are filling up pretty quick. I am still trying to make this work for me but I will not know until this weekend.

Shaun

[Tilted Horizon]

I registered for the Novice group yesterday. Worse case I'll trailer my bike up there solo. Crash at a friends in Columbia or I'll see you in the in-field Friday night.

[carolinamoto]

OK so if I bust my arse, someone will drop me off in Columbia. Right???? I think I can make it sunday.

[Scootimus]

Not like you will be that far from home, I would think that someone could lend a hand. but then again that's just me.

[carolinamoto]

I am just nervous about that track. For some reason it doesnt like me...

[crash]

Don't worry about it Shaun, if you happen to need a ride I could help you out but don't think that way.

I just checked and it looks like Sunday Intermediate is sold out.

[carolinamoto]

Just signed up for Sunday novice. See you guys there.

[Tilted Horizon]

Anyone find any good track vids of CMP to study? I want to start mentally preparing for the track day. I'm hoping to truly dial in my suspension this time, and give me more confidence with my bike in the turns. Therefore I can progress more.

At RRR I went up one click on the front rebound damper and up one click in the rear damper. These settings seemed to give me more confidence on my last sessions with entry into the turns and mid corner turning. Just wish I had more sessions left that day to continue progressing.

These are some recommended suspension settings I might try with my bike at CMP as a new starting point:
MotorcycleIssuefront preloadfront rebound dampingfront comp. dampingrear preloadrear rebound dampingrear comp. dampingYZF-R1 ('07)3/075 lines showing8 clicks out from full stiff7 clicks out from full stiffPosition 7 of 97 clicks out from full stiffHigh speed: 2 turns out from full stiff; Low speed 8 turns out from full stiffNote:Set ride height to 4mm from top of fork tube to top of triple clamp.[/URL]

I'm considering lowering the tripple clamp and then backing off the preload but I'll need help with that. So I'll be utilizing STT for that. My last bike (98 FZR600R) was setup with the clamp lowered. I felt more confident on the street with that bike but the foot pegs were low on it and I would drag a tow quite often on tight turns. Never got the chance to take it on the track.

I haven't set the static sag and rider sag yet to my weight but it seems fine with the current settings. I haven't noticed the suspension bottoming out or having too much travel.

These links I found were very helpful:
http://www.gostar-racing.com/information/motorcycle_suspension_set-up.htm (http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_suspension_settings/index10.html)
[URL]http://www.sportrider.com/suspension_settings/suspension_setup/146_0402_suspension_setup_guide/index.html
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_suspension_settings/index10.html

[unfast1]

Who is def going? If I can get a spot in the morning I will be doing both days.

[carolinamoto]

Who is def going? If I can get a spot in the morning I will be doing both days.


me fo sho on sunday... :wave:

[Tilted Horizon]

I'm going to both days in novice group. Gonna try and get to the point that I can drag a knee in a turn. I'll take all the advice and help I can get.

Cheers!

[unfast1]

Anybody want to sell their novice or intermediate for Saturday. All they have left is advance and I have not been to CMP or any track since last year.

[Tilted Horizon]

Found a decent vid with a pretty fast line on CMP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmuSSBQyuSU&feature=related

[Tilted Horizon]

Better vid quality. Not sure about the speed and line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNDQNrqBzs4&NR=1

[jason 41]

Advanced both days:D

[unfast1]

Advanced both days:D


I think they would kick me out.

[Tilted Horizon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jprooh1NAo&feature=related

This guy is pretty fast. Faster than I am that's for sure.

[Tilted Horizon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsgqIZNa2zM&feature=related

hot lap of an intermediate group

[crash]

I just signed up for Sunday. Hopefully I will not be holding anyone up in the advanced group.

[Brian Hudson]

I'm going to both days in novice group. Gonna try and get to the point that I can drag a knee in a turn. I'll take all the advice and help I can get.

Cheers!
forget about your knee! A wise man once told me, work on technique and speed will come.

[Turbo storm]

forget about your knee! A wise man once told me, work on technique and speed will come.He speaks the truth! :soap:

[carolinamoto]

its not hard to drag everything at CMP so be careful and focus on you lines, entry points and exits. I am riding novice on Sunday and will be more than glad to help because I will be needing help myself.

[Tilted Horizon]

Yea, I always ride within my limit. But as long as I feel confident on my bike I tend to progress. My only wish is that the sessions at RRR lasted longer! But with 4 groups kinda hard to do.

Initially I would loose confidence in my bike when I felt like the front or rear was slipping. After going up one click in the front and back on the rebound the bike felt more solid. My last run I felt pretty solid, but I still doubt that my suspension is dialed in correctly. Especially since I recall hearing that soft is fast in the turns, but I suspect they meant the compression not the rebound.

[Tilted Horizon]

its not hard to drag everything at CMP so be careful and focus on you lines, entry points and exits. I am riding novice on Sunday and will be more than glad to help because I will be needing help myself.
Awsome... I'll see if I can keep up with you and learn a few things.

[carolinamoto]

Awsome... I'll see if I can keep up with you and learn a few things.

it will not be hard to keep up with me... I am slow and working on suspension stuff myself. My thing is going to be the lines. I can't remember the track since it has been 10 years since my last visit there. New tires and a newly dialed suspension should be fun.

Everyone be safe on your travels, and don't forget I have big Corner Junkie stickers for $5 a piece.:yeah:

[jason 41]

This should be a good day, dont think I will have the GSXR out there so I will be on the Honda

[crash]

Looks like 60% chance of rain Sunday but as usual it will probably change.

[iamnsxtc]

Looks like 60% chance of rain Sunday but as usual it will probably change.
I talked to Dave. Guess we;'ll play it by ear Friday.. I'll be ready to go by tonight bike that is

[Tilted Horizon]

Looks like 60% chance of rain Sunday but as usual it will probably change.
Yea I saw the forecast... I really hope it doesn't rain. What do they usually do. Let us go out on the track as long as it's not actively raining and no standing water?

Or do they shut it down till it dries out? My hopes is a rain check. I know there's no refunds but if we can't ride due to weather that shouldn't be our fault either.

If STT or the riders knew in advance that the track was going to be wet they probably wouldn't sign up. Therefore CMP wouldn't be able to rent the track out. At least not for motorcycles.

I really don't feel ready for a wet track.

[iamnsxtc]

TYpically it would be up to the track to call a rain out. Then SBTT will issue a raincheck for another trackday within 12 months...Right now it looks like 70%

[carolinamoto]

fingers crossed!!!! I really want to get back out to CMP.

[the_MAC]

ill decide tomorrow if im going. still looking at the wx...

[iamnsxtc]

ill decide tomorrow if im going. still looking at the wx...
Im leaning pretty hard on a no-go. still holding strong 60% even saturday has increased to 40% in Kershaw :crying:Somebody said Jennings (Jason) THe only problem is if they call a rain-out you have to be AT the track to get your voucher..no exceptions!!

[Tilted Horizon]

Well I'm signed up so I have to show up in order to get a rain-check voucher.

http://www.sportbiketracktime.biz/Corporategroup.aspx

Weather Policy: All Sportbike Track Time venues have a "rain-or-shine policy". The track facility may call rain days and you must be present to receive a voucher. Rain-check vouchers are non-transferable and expire 12 months from date of issue. In the extremely unlikely event that management at a venue calls the day prior to any on-track activity due to the track being deemed "non-ridable", a make up date may be issued for a future date of the venues choosing. This date will be the sole remedy and Sportbike Track Time will issue no refunds/credits for future events. An event voucher will be issued to all riders scheduled for the event. This voucher may be transferred to another current STT member of the same skill level group if desired. 



[carolinamoto]

are they calling today? Its about 9am here and its pouring in Irmo part of Columbia.

[crash]

Got word from someone there right now that they are still running the trackday even though they say its dangerous. I will show up tomorrow to see if I can get my rain check if they give it out.

[carolinamoto]

i just talked to someone in the novice group and they say it is moving along slowly but they are getting in some track time. I will show up in the morning as well so see ya there.

[carolinamoto]

I ran the novice group yesterday and had a blast. I will for sure run the Intermediate group from now on but man after 7 sessions I am sore. the first two were a little wet and I learned a little of how the bike could and WILL slide around. After the lunch break the sun came out and it was out for the rest of the day. There were alot of people there and it was a little crowded in some of the groups. There was a couple of really fast guys in the advanced group. One guy was on a gixxer and his leathers had the name Snaders on the back. He was the fastes by far.

[Tilted Horizon]

I ran the novice group yesterday and had a blast. I will for sure run the Intermediate group from now on but man after 7 sessions I am sore. the first two were a little wet and I learned a little of how the bike could and WILL slide around. After the lunch break the sun came out and it was out for the rest of the day. There were alot of people there and it was a little crowded in some of the groups. There was a couple of really fast guys in the advanced group. One guy was on a gixxer and his leathers had the name Snaders on the back. He was the fastes by far.
Yea I was there saturday... wet in the morning. I liked having an instructor but the groups were paired up poorly. Some initial skills assesments should be taken first.

The result was a lot of bunching up and confusion on the track. It presented a lot of dangers with the passing rules. Later in the afternoon when we were allowed to do our own thing or stick with our instructors it felt more comfortable and less bunched up. People naturually fell into place with others in the same skill realm.

Unfortunately though I laid my bike down in turn 5 due to crowding.

I was following the pack on lap one (cold tires) and then it got too crowded coming out of turn 4 leading into turn 5. My reaction was to roll off the throttle and swing wider, but wound up going inside on a very aggressive line/path, broke loose on the rear and low sided.

I'm fine and the bike runs fine. Frame sliders did a good job minimizing the damage. Mostly cosmetic damage to lower and mid right cowling. Rear brake level broke and some of the engine casing is scraped. (Know any good deals for cowling and parts?)

On the bright side I got some good technique for getting off the bike in turns, and I unintentionally managed to drag my right knee a few times in Turn 12 (13 was blocked off so it was the broader version of 12).

I think I'll be looking into a dedicated track bike for trackdays. This way I'll always have a bike for the street.

[Tilted Horizon]

I didn't see any CJ guys there on Saturday. At least that I could tell when I walked around the paddock and asked around if anyone knew about CJ.

On another note I was surprised to see a lot of older 60+ guys riding sportbikes in the intermediate group. These guys would tear me a new one on the track. Guess they aren't scared of breaking a hip or anything. I was thoroughly impressed that these guys are out there and have the strength and dexterity to hang off the bikes and drag knees.

[Scootimus]

You gotta be careful about them "old" guys, they will teach you a thing or two out there.

[carolinamoto]

I hope I represented Corner Junkies Well yesterday. I had alot of people ask what it was. I told them to go the site and sign up. I must have talked to about 50 people and half of them said they have heard about us. I also told them that we do alot of track days too at RRR. I expressed how laid back it was and that there was not going to be 130 people there. Anyway maybe we will see a few more names on the site from this.

[carolinamoto]

pictures are up at motohd.net. go to the photos page and look for STT CMP april 2010. I am in the novice group but all the pictures were pretty good. These are no Mike K pics but they are ok.

[jason 41]

I was there on saturday in the advanced group White CBR 600RR #4 green leathers with Pink writing "The Cajun Kid" you cant miss me.....

[Turbo storm]

"The Cajun Kid" you cant miss me.....
Sure you can...you ride too fast! :D

[bondsemble]

You gotta be careful about them "old" guys, they will teach you a thing or two out there.
+1!

[TheLoneDuc]

I was in the novice group too. They run a very tight event. I'd have been happier if they hadn't gone all wild west in the afternoon though.

[Scootimus]

Welcome to the site LoneDuc.

So, how was the track? I've heard some people say that it's bumpy. I want to give it a try one of these days.

[TheLoneDuc]

Welcome to the site LoneDuc.

So, how was the track? I've heard some people say that it's bumpy. I want to give it a try one of these days.

Thanks! The track didn't feel bumpy to me at all. It will get slick once your off line if it hasn't rained, like it did, and washed all the rubber away.

[NC Rick]

LoneDuc, I was also out their on my Ducati on both Sat and Sun. I had a great time.

I would love to have some more background on the wild west thing.

What were you riding? Wonder if we got to ride together?

[Scootimus]

Welcome to the site Rick. Being in Asheville you definitely have some nice roads to ride up in that area.

Hope to see you guys at a future track day!

[carolinamoto]

welcome both lone duc and rick. I got to hang out with lone duc on sunday and he is a cool cat. Thanks again for sharing your space in the tech shed. We need to get both of you guys out to a Corner Junkie track day at Roebling and really have some fun. Will not be as crowded and you get alot more track time...

[Tilted Horizon]

I hope I represented Corner Junkies Well yesterday. I had alot of people ask what it was. I told them to go the site and sign up. I must have talked to about 50 people and half of them said they have heard about us. I also told them that we do alot of track days too at RRR. I expressed how laid back it was and that there was not going to be 130 people there. Anyway maybe we will see a few more names on the site from this.
I did the same with the riders next to me in the paddock area. I told them how it wasn't crowded at RRR.

[TheLoneDuc]

LoneDuc, I was also out their on my Ducati on both Sat and Sun. I had a great time.

I would love to have some more background on the wild west thing.

What were you riding? Wonder if we got to ride together?

What I mean by wild west is once the classroom related sessions are over your entirely on your own. They didn't exercise near enough control over the novice group and I think a few of those riders could have easily been moved to intermediate.

As to my ride I was the fellow with the 848 Hayden. Wondeful trackbike, very happy I have it.

Carolinamoto, happy to share the garage! I've been wondering where all the sportbike riders are in Columbia!

[Tilted Horizon]

LoneDuc, I was also out their on my Ducati on both Sat and Sun. I had a great time.

I would love to have some more background on the wild west thing.

What were you riding? Wonder if we got to ride together?
I was there Saturday, wish I met up with you since your profile says you're occupation is suspension tech. I was dissappointed they didn't have the suspension guy there. I was really wanting make sure my preloads and dampers were set right.

[NC Rick]

Thank you for the welcome folks, This is a great site. I have been doing some Autocrossing in my Miata too so I found it through cars and bikes. Love bikes, like cars...

LoneDuc, I saw you on that bike, man what a machine! Likely one of the best Ducati track bikes going. I was out there on my black and white 999 (said FF on the fairing) I also rode my wifes 900 CR last session Saturday and first two wet sessions on Sunday morning.

Both days were really full, I think we had a total of 40 some bikes in Novice on Saturday. Intermediate was also full so moving people was not easy. I agree with your assessment of some of the riders being easy Intermediate group riders. I rode with 4 guys who requested to ride with me Saturday and they were FAST. They did get a bump up after Saturday. Sunday, a lot of the two day riders found their groove and were rolling. Sunday was the better day with regard to clear track it seems.

There always seems to be a disparity between riders in Novice in that some are old like me and like to stay relaxed some are young and ready to go, just need to figure it out. When there are few crashes and everyone can have fun, that makes the day. The whole weekend was like that.

After the official class room stuff is over, take advantage of the instructors, it is easy to get a lot of good one-on-one time. After being scared from a slide in the morning wet, a gal I rode with felt herself get her Mojo back after a full session of one-on-one. There are people who like to sign up in novice every time, just to take advantage of the instruction and more controlled environment.

I wish I could have met some of you guys. I hope to meet up next time. I do plan to be at Barber later in May with STT.

Rick

[NC Rick]

Tilted,

I own a shop up here in Asheville. I do not work the STT events in that capacity, they have a contract with Kenny.


My own Duc needed the sag set, I was unable to get to it before going. (the shoemakers son and all..)

Rick

[carolinamoto]

Rick, I was riding the silver Aprilia RSV with yellow number plates and blue/black leathers. I was checking your bike out and I must say it is a pretty bike. I love Ducati's and I have had 4. I just can't afford them anymore. You will really enjoy a Corner Junkie track day so keep an eye out in the racing section for track days to come. The people that set them up are racing alot this month and next so we should have one coming up soon at Roebling Road.

[Turbo storm]

The people that set them up are racing alot this month and next so we should have one coming up soon at Roebling Road.
We just finished Nashville this past weekend, and we have Barber this coming weekend. I believe the next one for RRR will be in mid to late March. It will be our test and tune for the race there on June 5,6. ;)

[NC Rick]

What org. are you guys racing with?

[Mike]

We just finished Nashville this past weekend, and we have Barber this coming weekend. I believe the next one for RRR will be in mid to late March. It will be our test and tune for the race there on June 5,6. ;)

Geez, I hope you meant May :eek:

[jason 41]

What I mean by wild west is once the classroom related sessions are over your entirely on your own. They didn't exercise near enough control over the novice group and I think a few of those riders could have easily been moved to intermediate.

As to my ride I was the fellow with the 848 Hayden. Wondeful trackbike, very happy I have it.

Carolinamoto, happy to share the garage! I've been wondering where all the sportbike riders are in Columbia!
Lone Duc, it was nice to meet you and I hope you had a good time at the track. Remember to check those tire pressures every time you head out on the track. ;)


The Cajun Kid

[carolinamoto]

ok I need me some RRR, so you guys be safe out there and get us a CJ day planned. Kenny, Dan, Amy, and all you other racers-good luck

[Turbo storm]

What org. are you guys racing with?We are running WERA southeast and North Florida series.

Geez, I hope you meant May :eek:Yea...that's what I ment to say. Thanks editor! :yeah:

[NC Rick]

Cool! We have one of our sponsored guys racing CCS on a Ducati SuperSport (Novice plate) who has wone 6 for 6 right now, first win was at Daytona with the new bike.

I do an occasional race with AHRMA with the other old guys like me. It's been 2 years since the last though.